http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Proposed_US_ACTA_plurilateral_intellectual_property_trade_agreement_%282007%29 (http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Proposed_US_ACTA_plurilateral_intellectual_property_trade_agreement_%282007%29)
http://torrentfreak.com/proposed-treaty-turns-internet-into-a-virtual-police-state-080524/ (http://torrentfreak.com/proposed-treaty-turns-internet-into-a-virtual-police-state-080524/)
A WORLDWIDE bastard child of the DMCA is coming.... Will surely cause WWIII..... The Fun is over now.....
Damn it.
Alright, I need to rant. Badly.
What is the world coming to? It seems the governments and corporations do not believe that us as individuals are capable of collectively moderating ourselves in any kind of efficient manner, that we're just wild beings that need to be tamed and kept in a straight line, with no personal freedoms and no privacy just in the sake of "keeping things legal".
Is this what the world's coming to? A controlled society? It seems that people want everything done for them these days and since we've simply got the old-timers in command (the ones that grow up to be those sweet grandpas and grandmas you know about) who probably can't make a decision due to the growing case of Alzheimer's in their brains, they just hear how the bill would be "good for America" and decide to just pass it without question as to whether or not it was actually a bad thing. I swear that's how half the shit Bush has done got through Congress. Also, I also don't think Bush put anybody credible in the position, noting that more than half of the white house staff he's dug his paws into so deep that they'll do anything he says.
First video games, and now they're taking vengeance on the internet! Seriously, what is wrong with the idiots who can't seem to decide what's good and what's not good for America!? Nobody thinks about the INDIVIDUAL USER NOW!
Quote from: [Matsuda] on May 25, 2008, 11:38:32 AM
I swear that's how half the shit Bush has done got through Congress....
That also the way how Bill Clinton's DMCA got through the Congress. We still should not forget about the atrocity Bill has done to the entire world, and never EVER trust the Clintons again. In fact, once Hillary gets into the office, I could badly swear that
democracy should just die an obscure death, as dumb people are abundant enough to elect them. I can't come myself of a way (maybe except for Corporatocracy and Plutocracy) that could get these assholes poisoning our world elected.
And for the worst of all, I aspire myself to be a game designer, and that pact of evil will surely close doors into dreams. And what I gonna have to do next? They will just waste 97,8% of potential talents, as I COMPLETELY DENY there would be a single future talent that haven't pirated ANYTHING at all.... And majority of these lost souls with wasted talents may just as well move into pedophilia/prostitution/sadomasochism/slavery/whatever when they have nothing to do.
IS THAT WHAT THEY REALLY WANT?! THE THING IS GONNA SOCIALLY BACKFIRE FOR FUCKS SAKE!
What's even worse is that the age of rebellion has already passed. Everybody just... ACCEPTS all the damn slaps in the face their privacy. They just let it slide by and pretend it was always that way. What is wrong with humanity as a race? Here's the problem: Natural Selection has been getting too fucking lazy.
The Decline of the human intelligence makes AIDS look like A GOOD THING, as a last thing ever left from Natural Selection. No, seriously. The "Intelligence quotient" term just lost it's credibility right when there is one polish figure who claims to pass the MENSA test with 168 IQ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorota_Rabczewska) (and there's even a proof of it! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/mmysterious/proofyeahright.jpg)), and yet she's in fact a dumb,talentless (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WX_wN9zMB0),overhyped (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uX3LDEull8),small name Big Ego (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg3YZ6Z8NiU) whore.
IQ lost its credibility... Wait it never had any credibility with me since I have pretty much always known that IQ means nothing.
Also does anyone have a TL;DR version of this?
Well to be fair IQ questions are really easy. IQ doesn't equate to common sense, which alot of people lack.
And you people are taking this waaay too seriously. Nothing'll happen. You make it sound like people copy writing their work so people don't steal it is a bad thing...
Um, Robert...
This is the kind of thing that could get the MUGEN community in it's entirety shut down and everybody affiliated with creating for it arrested.
Yeah, but how your viewing it, your making it sound like copywrite laws in general are terrible terrible things, and if you agree with them you are obviously a kid fucking capitalist pig bastard who's only suitable punishment is death.
Like I said, I don't think this'll go through, but hey, being paranoid conspiracy theorists is always fun.
The solution? Nobody votes. [/Neon]
Quote from: Robert the small on May 26, 2008, 12:01:41 AM
Yeah, but how your viewing it, your making it sound like copywrite laws in general are terrible terrible things, and if you agree with them you are obviously a kid fucking capitalist pig bastard who's only suitable punishment is death.
There's a reason why we view it this way, and it's called "having some common sense." Maybe if you stopped to breath the air for once, you'd realize that these kinds of laws are ones that affect our daily lives. Look at the bill's wording itself.
Automated reports of activity. That means everything you do would be logged. This would kill a TON of gaming websites, MUGEN websites, hell, pretty much every place worth visiting to me would be shut down simply because of this bill. And you say it's nothing to be worried about?
You're the one who's suitable punishment is death, because you're in favor of such stupidity!
I never said I was in favor of it, I just said you guys take copywrite laws too seriously, especially considering ones that don't pass.
Robert, assuming you're an American by default, you must be one lucky bastard if you have yet to suffer from the consequences of the DMCA.
Also, I would like to debunk your statement of the ACTA not having chances to pass just by analyzing few aspects of the G8:
-Canada:There is one guy over there who wants to bring the American-style DMCA to Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Prentice#Controversies) Obviously, a conservative sockpuppet for Big Business.
-France:In a somewhat similar vein to Japan, there is an upcoming law that would target file-sharrers and cut down their connections. (http://www.webtvwire.com/french-government-inks-deal-to-punish-file-sharers-by-cutting-internet-connection/) All in the name of the "civilised Internet", or what Sarkozy said. Who used to call a single visitor dumb-ass. Asshole conservative, I've never really like Sarkozy to the point, I felt sorry for the french who let the right-winger win.
-Germany:Two words:STASI 2.0 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble#Criticism). Christian conservative.
-Italy:The Government over there just recently proposed a law that requires informative websites (including the private ones, like blogs) to be registered in some kind of rather scary Office (http://codeclimber.net.nz/archive/2007/10/19/Italian-government-is-going-to-censure-the-web.aspx). And then we have Franco Frattini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco_Frattini), the same asshole who wanted to ban video games europe-wide because of the underage b*nd*g* artists from Rule of Rose, and his idiotic idea to forbid uttering certain words (kill,genocide,bomb,terrorism etc.) and so talking about controversial topics as well, thus not allowing the humanity to grow it's balls. Does this remind you of anything? *cough*certainyoutuberMUGEN forums*cough*[/size[ And again, they're (liberal (my ass)) conservatives!
-Japan:ISP's cut connections of file-sharers due to the pressure from the Big Business (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/03/15/japanese-isps-to-cut-service-of-illegal-file-sharers-game-biz-big-media-pressure-behind-move) Oh, and the current prime minister of Japan is a (liberal (my ass)) conservative.
-Russia:Dunno. All I know, is that Russian schools begun to move into Linux (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7034828.stm), making Russia the country most likely to oppose such act (which is still more than unlikely, though, so It's not saying much). Oh, and Putin used to be in a conservative party.
-UK:Internet regulation seems to be increasing at alarming rate over there. For that reason, they won't receive any country for breaking the "all G8 countries ruled by conservatives" pattern.
-United States:Come on, do I even have to explain?
Turns out that the evilest bill of the world is actually pretty likely to pass, due to G8 being horribly one-sided. I don't know what you would think about that, though....
Eh, I generally try to keep my piracy to a minimum (like I'll pirate an old DOS game or offline starcraft, but I'm not going to download something like a PS2 game or whatever), so I'd figure the DMCA hasn't effected me that that much.
Like I said, I'm all for intellectual property rights, because lots of companies get screwed over by Piracy. Hence why I try to support companies and actually buy shit. I don't think it'll go through but if it does, it does. We can't stop it at all, so...
So that's it? You'll just accept it? And just remind yourself "Oh we used to be able to do this back in the day but not any more..."
That's pretty much all you can do, so why try anything else?
There's also the option explored in The Handmaid's Tale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid%27s_Tale) in which all you need to do is to go into the Congress building and kill everyone with a machine gun.
Not really ACTA/G8 related, but the doom seems sadly inevitable....
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/07/court-ruling-will-expose-viewing-habits-youtube-us (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/07/court-ruling-will-expose-viewing-habits-youtube-us)
Both Viacom and Louis Stanton seriously need to fucking eat shit and die.
What the fuck? Isn't this invasion of privacy?
Quote from: [Kira] on July 04, 2008, 11:07:42 AM
What the fuck? Isn't this invasion of privacy?
Yes, and a contradiction as well. When one clicks on the 'viewing history' section, it clearly states that YouTube 'respects your privacy and will not share this information with anyone'.
Viacom just needs to stop being massive pricks.
Posting from my Aunt's PC to bring you more baaad news.....
http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/07/02/write-to-your-mep-say-no-to-3-strikes-through-the-backdoor/ (http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/07/02/write-to-your-mep-say-no-to-3-strikes-through-the-backdoor/)
http://stealth.strangecompany.org/ (http://stealth.strangecompany.org/)
Some pricks were trying to pass a "three-strikes-we-will-cut-your-net-connection" bill (recently approved by that asshole president of France) by a backdoor to destroy the Internet.
Sicholas Narkozy should fucking die now....
I believe we have VERY few UK users here.
Viacom wants to buy out YouTube and see more than half of it's userbase arrested and removed from the site, dumbasses want the Internet to be "YOU MUST RESPECT THE INTERNATIONAL LAWS THAT WE MADE UP BECAUSE AMERICA CONTROLS THE WORLD"
i'm scared guys
hold me :'(
Seriously. Does international law mean nothing any more?
Seems so....
http://torrentfreak.com/g8-pushes-anti-piracy-trade-agreement-080710/ (http://torrentfreak.com/g8-pushes-anti-piracy-trade-agreement-080710/) :'(
I knew it, THIS SHIT WILL LIKELY TO BE PASSED AT THE END OF 2008 (unless some kind of miracle happens), and whoever thought this won't pass (Hi, Robert) got surely fooled the fuck out by Optimism (and I knew it that Optimism was useless a loooong time ago).
Also, I've just heard that - along with the "Thee Strikes Law" - that there could be a bill in EU that - if passed - would give the power to dictatorships to decide which tools can be used/uploaded and such, meaning that even Firefox could be deemed "illegal" by the MAFIAA sockpuppets! This is just....
Sadly, it's very unlikely that any kind of Charles Angus (http://torrentfreak.com/canadian-mp-three-strikes-law-is-idiotic-080706/) would change that.... Neither would my Aunt's PC I'm still posting from....
(http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9904/06/kosovo.refugees.03/crying.man.jpg)
Yeah, 2009's gonna be the year of hell for the internet, because let's face it: Fuck Net Neutrality, this is more bullshit than THAT.
I'm betting that the system is going to be so autonomous in implementation that sites like ours could be shut down just because some MUGEN-hating moron decides that we're breaking all kinds of copyright laws. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they did that to ALL MUGEN sites.
Also, to add some replies to the mix:
Quote from: Robert the small on May 27, 2008, 12:06:03 PM
Like I said, I'm all for intellectual property rights, because lots of companies get screwed over by Piracy.
Yes, piracy affects companies like Electronic Arts who are dumb enough to alienate their consumers by trying to fight piracy but putting some kind of stupid security measure on their games as well as being complete tards about any questions asked ABOUT the security measures. And someone calls them a "community friendly" company when their security is what's harming it. Outside of the traditional "I can get it for free" mindset, THAT is why Electronic Arts suffers from piracy. Because they're calling it upon theirselves.
It's going to effectively be the damnnation of the internet. Have you ever heard of what Viacom does to fan sites?
Let's say a show like South Park is just getting off the ground, just started, nobody's really heard of it before, so dozens of fan sites pop up all advertising the game. Well let's zip forward a year or two and the show's extremely popular. Now Viacom starts firing out the Cease & Desists to the fan sites.
Think of that but on a
much larger scale. Not just Viacom. Not just South Park.
Advertising the game? What? You're confusing me.
Also WHAT THE FUCK
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/07/15/viacom-youtube.html (http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/07/15/viacom-youtube.html)
Viacom has backed off its demands to gain access to the viewing habits and personal data of YouTube users, information it had originally asked for in its copyright infringement lawsuit against the video-sharing website.
The two sides agreed on Monday that any material YouTube was ordered to hand over would be stripped of personal information, including user ID, IP address and visitor ID.
"We are pleased to report that Viacom, MTV and other litigants have backed off their original demand for all users' viewing histories and we will not be providing that information," YouTube wrote on its company blog Monday. The company also posted a copy of the stipulation to the order on its website.
Viacom, which owns several U.S. television networks including MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon and Comedy Central, had originally asked for the information as part of its $1 billion US lawsuit against YouTube, which is owned by internet search giant Google Inc.
Other plaintiffs in the lawsuit include the English soccer Premier League and music publisher Bourne Co. Viacom and the other plaintiffs alleged in the suit, launched in March2007, that almost 160,000 unauthorized clips of its programming are available on YouTube. Those clips have been viewed more than 1.5 billion times, Viacom charged.
It argued Google wasn't doing enough to keep its copyrighted videos from television shows such as The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and The Colbert Report off YouTube.
It had originally asked for access to the user histories to prove that copyright-infringing material is more popular than user-generated videos on YouTube.
Two weeks ago a U.S. federal judge ordered YouTube to hand over this information, a decision San Francisco-based privacy advocacy group The Electronic Frontier Foundation said was "a setback to privacy rights."
Viacom issued a statement Monday, saying it never asked for personally identifiable information and only wanted the data as evidence in its case.
"Viacom will use the data exclusively for the purpose of proving our case against YouTube and Google," the company said in a statement.
At issue in the case is whether Google has fulfilled its requirements under the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
The DMCA gives websites protection against infringement claims provided copyrighted material is removed upon notification. Viacom has argued Google could do a better job of blocking the infringing material but doesn't do so because infringing material makes up a significant portion of the website's traffic.
IP address? Oh great, they could NEVER find out who it is with that!
I still don't get what this thread is about.
This thread is all about how corporate assburgers are willing to crush us, our hopes, our future, and well.... everything fun that's all left in this world.....
Seems like corporate witchthunt seems to be trendy these days, as my own pathethic country has joined France and UK willing to cut the internet from the "filesharers". However, aside from cutting connections, they also want to seize PC's.... That's just....
Not to mention that.... sure, the US of 21st century is the home the shittiest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_Movie) movies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostel_2) of (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hottie_and_the_Nottie) the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catwoman_(film)) planet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Earth_(film)), but they also have some (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_(film)) good (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_(film)) ones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnie_darko) too (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Country_for_Old_Men_(film)), while I can't remind a single good 21st century movie that came from my country, it's just pure crap these days. (Though I have yet to see The Pianist....)
Also, couldn't this be a sign that the ACTA will come to life so soon? (http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/07/29/198229.shtml)
Also - as I expected, sadly - The vote for the EU-Wide "thee strikes law" amendments have been passed, but the fight is not over yet, it seems..... (http://stealth.strangecompany.org/)
And by the way, whoever said that present copyright laws are depressing and hopeless is spot on. (http://ezee.se/articles-blog/2008/08/06/present-copyright-is-depressing-and-hopeless/)
Conduct private investigations? Come on, let's be honest, what company other than possibly EA is gonna go through all that damn trouble just to play detective and catch a few pirates in the process?
I read an article about an "i-Patriot Act" a couple of days ago. It mentioned that it was very similar in nature of execution and has, in fact, been on the backburner just waiting to be pulled but only when the time is appropriate, A.K.A a virtual 9/11. But if you're like me, you will believe that the idea of a 'virtual 9/11' is entirely IMPOSSIBLE unless it were a completely staged deal. I'm very sure places like the Pentagon, White House, and every major target at least in the U.S have some kind of routinely updated backup so that if their databases ARE wiped, the system backups that aren't networked can be used to restore everything in a day or so.
Still, don't hold your tongue, spread this around.
METAL GEAR?!
It's offical, John McCain is just another dick would screw our ass when he'd get into the office. Not suprising for the Republican. (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080815-mccain-plans-to-crack-down-on-global-epidemic-of-piracy.html) (It's not like I getting my hopes up on Obama though, as he comes from the same turf as the guy who signed the DMCA)
And the piracy-witchunt has just outdid itself when a new country has joined the Copyright Alliance to screw some poor people. (And I wonder if someone would be able to read through the entire thing withouth ever thinking of the N-word) (http://torrentfreak.com/african-drugs-cops-to-enforce-copyright-080809/)
You realize it'd be highly likely Obama would be anti-piracy if he went into office as well? I don't think copying software and making the developers and producers of games lose money is very good policy.
I really do find it strange that you'd be so concerned with American politics when you live in Poland, The_None.
The EU tends to play follow the leader with the US when it suits them.
Not quite matching with the theme of the topic, but...
You remember those troubles with the economy with companies screwing theirselves over? The bailout plan designed to keep that from happening has just been kicked aside. (http://www.thenation.com/blogs/jstreet/365972/bailout_bill_fail)
I stand in agreement that this bill shouldn't pass, it's a get out of jail free card for those dumb idiots who like to mortgage everything they own and live like millionaires even though they only make enough to be middle-class. Better yet, it's also the Banks' fault for letting those dumbasses get away with it in the first place.
Indeed, but at the same time, our economy, as well as those of other countries, might be screwed if they don't get out.
It's certainly no easy situation.
If there's going to be a bailout, I'd rather it be based around the fact that it'll be for people my age. They've done a lot of crap that we, as a generation, are going to have to clean up. It's their fault, they're just gonna make US do the work for them.
To hell with the rich people class. Even though I live a fairly big life, I tell you that it isn't easy nor is it as satisfying as it sounds.
It's the republicans' fault. Funnily enough, they're trying to pin it on the democrats.
Oh, and if any of you are going to listen to news, just in case you're still ignorant, Fox News is nothing but republican bullshit. Although I alway thought it best to watch and read multiple news sources, Fox News you definitely need to stay away from concerning the current issues. All they're doing right now is bashing Obama.
That's why I trust Keith Olbermann.
"Fixed News"
"Fox Noise"
Or as some people on another forum call it...
"Faux News"
The amount of mindless McCain fanboyism down here is mind-boggling. But then again I live in a hick-town part of Texas so it's no surprise.
I'M IN YOUR THREAD POSTING THE SHIT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE YOURSELF ANYWAYS. (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/13/bush-signs-pro-ip-act-into-law/)
AWAY!
Wait does this mean...?
http://www.trinitymugen.net/~Creator/Jesuszilla/BADBOYSRAPED.swf
Under the guide of that bill.
Let's say I have a PC, 360, PS3, Wii, DVD Player, VCR Recorder, a batch of CDs, DVDs with stored backups, USB drives with important business files...
If there were even a shred of possibility that one of those had a pirated MP3, all of those would be confiscated. ALL OF THEM. Likely not returned to you, either.
What is this?
THEFT.
No, more like treating it like CP, which is ridiculous.
Thank goodness I don't live in USA.
The entire thing - however - sadly makes it easier to let the world-wide counterpart of such douchebagerry (namely the godamn ACTA we've talked about in this topic) pass into the law.
And by the way, the ESA is the new RIAA as well.... (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/10/14/esa-boss-praises-congress-dubya-new-anti-piracy-law)
LOL DEMOCRACY (http://theslackerz.com/index.php?nav=Comic&Page=98)
On a side note, I hope the entire thing will backfire like it happened with the DMCA to McCain (http://ezee.se/articles-blog/2008/10/16/dmca-bites-mccain-on-the-butt/)....
RIAA pledges to stop suing individuals (http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/19/riaa-finds-its-soul-will-stop-suing-individuals-for-music-pirac/).
But they're instead aiming for ISPs now.
There goes all of file-sharing relating to MP3s and such.
... What.
They'll sue the ISPs into their agenda.
TorrentFreak's predicting it, too. (http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-stops-lawsuits-but-not-the-threats-081219/)
It apears that the 2009 will also give us some Italian guy's effort to "regulate the entire internet", impending the ACTA. (http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/12/04/2330232.shtml) (Not surpising, as Italy also gave us this patfhuck who seemingly doesn't want us to grow up at all (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco_Frattini)
*cough*JSMugen Forums*cough*.)
*The_None foresees Rikard weeping in shame of his country....*And besides, RIAA actually claimed to not have sued anybody "for months", while their last recent suit is not even a single month old (http://news.slashdot.org/news/08/12/07/2024205.shtml). With lies taken care of, let me correct this:
Quote from: [Matsuda] on December 19, 2008, 11:29:48 AM
But they're instead also aiming for ISPs now.
QuoteSlashDot
by MobyDisk (75490) on Thursday December 04, @07:37PM (#25997105) Homepage
Absolutely! No more allowing people just to connect to the Internet with any address they choose! Instead, I propose some sort of standard Internet Protocol address. And a central organization to assign everyone those addresses. Then, we can have some sort of header on every packet that will describe the source and destination address.
Perhaps we could have a central organization who would assign names to those addresses. And they could standardize the naming schemes, and the protocols the naming servers use!
nahh... that's just too much regulation :)
Very true words.
We shall not let our guard down, folks.
ACTA Could Make Nonprofit P2Ps Face Criminal Penalties, AS I EXPECTED (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/09/02/07/071230.shtml) Won't be suprised if this would make MUGEN and indie scene a jailbait as well.
And look, the EU wants it's own ACTA too. (http://torrentfreak.com/eu-plots-pirate-bay-ban-and-piracy-clampdown-090201/) Overkill, anyone?
I feel sorry for the British (http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/09/03/10/1226230.shtml) and for the French (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/03/french-anti-p2p-law-toughest-in-the-world.ars)
Poor Neon. :(
Fuck you.
lol
Quote from: The_None on March 13, 2009, 11:08:06 AM
I feel sorry for the British (http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/09/03/10/1226230.shtml) and for the French (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/03/french-anti-p2p-law-toughest-in-the-world.ars)
They can't stop me. >:)
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/03/were-not-releasing-acta-docs-says-us-again.ars (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/03/were-not-releasing-acta-docs-says-us-again.ars)
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/09/03/16/0945237.shtml (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/09/03/16/0945237.shtml)
Allright, we may have seen this coming with putting that jack-ass who contributed to both the DMCA AND that PRO-IP bill Bush signed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden) in the VP position, being from the same turf as the idiot who signed the DMCA (which could've been a good thing if it didn't became somewhat abused) and some other stuff, but consider this a serious warning:Are you really that stupid enough to drive us all to The KKK? I am dead fucking serious about that.
I may have overreacted a bit, but I have a horrible feeling about this.
Also cue that The Who song....
The DMCA was a GOOD thing, dude. Chill.
The DMCA didn't really have a method of enforcement so it didn't do much.
Sarkozy ultimately rapes democracy by passing that one law in possibly cheapest way possible - by bringing the law into the vote when there were only about 2% of deputies present. (http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/03/1432258) Isn't there no kind of Supreme Court over there or what?
What I think is that Copyright needs to be reworked, or just given a complete reset entirely. We grew up in an age where we were taught that sharing your things was okay, and as a matter of fact was required.
We were taught to share, but we share and we're criminals for doing it?
Copyright law -needs- revision, not addition.
I'll be glad when the era of the Baby Boomers is over. To the old people: I don't care how many wars you've been in, you're an old as fuck man running off of the 60s and you wonder why we don't listen to you?
Sharing is for communists.
Aww, The Commies Get No Love.
Fuck, the industry wins again (http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-trial-the-verdict-090417/).
"This will cause a flood of court cases. Against all the ISPs. Because if these guys assisted in copyright infringements, then the ISPs also did. This will have huge consequences. The entire development of broadband may be stalled."
The way it's looking, this is going to be the true end of the internet, where it's discarded because of the potential for piracy. Instead of trying to fit the internet in on the copyright laws, Corporations and media companies choose to abuse their intellectual rights and fine for obscene amounts of damage even IF their target is not directly responsible for crimes.
This is how collectivist a lot of media agencies are, from misinterpreting ad revenue (http://torrentfreak.com/file-sharing-admin-convicted-for-crime-he-didnt-commit-090415/) as some sort of infringement, to using dirty methods to try and expose people (http://torrentfreak.com/mpaas-hacking-past-comes-back-to-hunt-090412/).
Copyright law by itself simply needs a new revision entirely. Do away with DMCA, the ACTA, and all related "digital distribution protection" anti-piracy methods. They're gonna end up targeting people who are completely innocent and protected by law, innocents will go to jail for crimes they didn't commit, and that's why I worry.
You may as well target MySpace's Tom for assisting in the piracy of songs, since there are a lot of Spaces on that site that have full-length high quality songs on a user's playlist that anybody with a Stereo Mix option could just hit record on and have a full copy of a song by the time it's done playing. You could make it sound like you've did nothing wrong, the equivalent of recording an episode of a TV show with your video camera, but the media collectivists will say otherwise, and will buy their way into victory at your trial.
Quote from: Fox McCloud on April 17, 2009, 10:43:47 AM
"This will cause a flood of court cases. Against all the ISPs.
Maybe in other parts of the world, but here in the US we have an established precedent that ISPs are not liable for content posted by users as long as the ISP shows good will and cooperates with take-down requests as soon as possible.
That means that for the most part, our ISPs here are safe.
Also, they haven't won yet. Wait for the appeal.
Sweden sucks dick.
Quote from: Insanius on April 17, 2009, 12:07:35 PMMaybe in other parts of the world, but here in the US we have an established precedent that ISPs are not liable for content posted by users as long as the ISP shows good will and cooperates with take-down requests as soon as possible.
If they're not liable, why are they held responsible?
They're not.
http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-lawyer-is-biased-calls-for-a-retrial-090423/ (http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-lawyer-is-biased-calls-for-a-retrial-090423/)
No wonder why we've lost.
Hah.
This rant isn't about video games, or is it about people I know. It's about the justice system and how it's bound to fail should it keep running this course.
So I'm sure most of us are familiar with the Pirate Bay's trial. Some people I've heard still believe the Judge's decision was the right one, referencing Robin Hood's scholastic version as being the factual version of what actually happened and trying to say they're using a "robin hood" defense all the while painting the lot of torrent users as pirating assholes who wake up every day and just imagine what they can get illegal copies of. That description is so contrived I'd even call it a stereotype.
But it doesn't help that the Pirate Bay's trial had 1 major factor that honestly, the Swedish Government should have considered going against in the best interest of fairness: The revealed fact that the Judge was part of a anti-piracy group from the beginning. He ruled in favor of the IFPI and associates, most likely because his membership would be threatened and he'd lose some of the theoretical capital by letting "criminals and thieves" free.
But when it comes down to it, they should either be innocent, or they should be prosecuting major search engines that aren't directly linked to torrent websites' activities but link to them regardless. Google is a major, MAJOR offender of copyright law if just having links run through a tracker is enough to indict you for copyright infringement. The judge basically ruled for guilt by association, NOT whatever the verdict actually was. THAT is why the trial was unfair.
But add to that, President Obama wants to further limit the Defendants' rights (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/23/obama-legal-team-wants-de_n_190852.html) in trials. Is it really "Innocent until proven Guilty" or is it the other way around? It really gets just hard to look at the legal system as a thing of fairness and makes me want to live in the shadows even more just in fear of the justice system which is becoming more like Dredd by the second. It may seem cool, but in reality, the law system of Judge Dredd is really, really screwed up.
A major problem with the whole system in general is that it automatically favors large corporations against individual users or smaller companies, no matter the defense or how legal you are according to the Constitution and all of the amendments passed. Fair trials? Let those accused stand guilty no matter their innocence.
I could go on about Torture, the "enhanced interrogation techniques" and how nobody considers waterboarding (not the fun kind, but basically a simulated drowning) a method of torture. I could also go on about how "state secrets" is abused for a lot of the inquiries. SOMEONE is going to get pissed, SOMEONE is going to rebel and SOMEONE is going to rip apart those secrets in a fit of rage and determination. Who is it going to be? The American public that gets sick and tired of all this bullcrap.
Terrorist attacks? Screw them, if there is one, it will be damn convenient for Obama to rally support should his poll numbers slip.
I (so does Fusion) fucking knew it. (http://www.eff.org/press/mentions/2009/4/22)
Anybody knows how to sign into The KKK?
It's gonna four looooooong years.....
Good thing I don't watch too many movies, and those that I do, I buy anyway.
Warner* Music is now officially the most butthurt music label of the planet. (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/29/2151256)
* - strange concidence, isn't it?
Isn't that ironic?
It boggles my mind how I could forget about THIS (http://blackouteurope.eu/)....
if it ever happens, take to the streets, boycotts, protests, etc.
Even though i'm not european, i'm scared it might soon get forced into asia as well.
Policing the internet is POINTLESS.
The Internet as a whole is a distribution network, where people can share things with others without them even having to leave their home for, say, a copy of Bedtime Stories. Buying things online is just as popular as ever, now that people can do it from the convenience of their own home AND without having to do it through a telephone.
But with the good, come the bad, which as history tells us... The bad ALWAYS outweighs the good, somehow. You'll never hear of good things that happened during our nation's history, or even the world's history. No, Crusades this, vanishing that, the bad points of history always end up being repeated because we learn from them. Society as a whole might be more tame and progressive if we, the media and all such focused on the good of the world as opposed to the bad.
You start your life as a child, being read stories with happy endings and learning about a small portion of the good things that have happened. But later, you start to see the painted reality that there's nothing good about the world, that bad is capitalized on by everybody instead of the heroes that save the day. If Society were instead more focused on the good, pure and true things that the people of the world have done, then we may be a far more tame and progressive society. We might actually have a global unity if we did.
But no, we instead choose to capitalize on the bad qualities of life, to support violent reactions, social awkwardness if not fuel those very same and more! Giving the scum of the earth more publicity than a local hero who by all rights deserves to be known in some way for his achievement no matter how small. EVERYBODY does it and no one realizes it. Have we truly got anywhere as a society for however long we've existed? Or have we just built our buildings, made up stories and proceeded to not move away from what we would consider a barbaric way of life.
I would change society for the better, if I had any power to. But alas, my mind is attached to a body that can gain no recognition, no fame, for my lineage is cursed into obscurity. But I can't end myself, that's just not the right way to go. I want to wait until my natural death, so that when I do cross over, I have plenty of stories to tell.
What does most of this have to do with the internet? Hell if I know, but it's a good piece of existentialism.
...
The European internet still remains under imminent threat, as the Telecoms Package was just simply postponed, and may return later to simply rape us all this time. (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/amendment-138-46-adopted-again)
At least someone gave a middle finger to Sarkozy's three strikes rule though.
See the positive part of it, at least you will be able to buy the extra services, some of us are left with no extra services at all, or at least are not told how the system works. Like our cable internet provider that gives you 2mbs download, but that's from their server's cache to your house, if you want to download stuff that is not in their server's cache the velocities can be anythign they want to:
You know, this is really representative of how any anti-piracy law will be used. (http://torrentfreak.com/tv-exec-fired-for-opposing-anti-piracy-law-090507/)
Dude, that's fucked up.
Sicholas Narkozy never gave up (http://torrentfreak.com/france-passes-three-strikes-anti-piracy-law-090512/). Bastard.
The French can't even win political victories :-X
And now the French will be outright slaves to Big Buisness and Sicholas Narkozy's enormous Ego! (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/05/next-up-for-france-police-keyloggers-and-web-censorship.ars)
Bumped because no one replied to my previos post.
http://torrentfreak.com/pro-copyright-propaganda-enters-us-classrooms-090522/ (http://torrentfreak.com/pro-copyright-propaganda-enters-us-classrooms-090522/)
Folks, if they could get in the way with this kind of stuff, get ready for the earth to be filled with idiots who would spill off bullshit like this (http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/26/1223224) and THIS (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/05/26/japanese-copyright-boss-calls-ds-piracy-terrorism).
Surely they've learned something from the Prohibition Era of American history?
The law needs a new perspective.
Wow, KOD really IS a terrorist!
Copyright... How the hell is it right?
There are always gonna be the students who just don't buy what they're told in school, so I guess there is some glimmer of hope as faint as it may be.
Exactly. You think sex ed and DRUGS ARE BAD MMM'KAY ever worked?
Honestly I think sex ed works as long as they teach condom usage.
Phrases like "no glove no love" catch on very well and teenagers don't seem to mind their use.
Germans are going (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/19/047252/German-Parliament-Enacts-Internet-Censorship-Law) to be screwed (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/06/05/germany039s-interior-ministers-ask-bundestag-total-ban-violent-games)
As would be Canadians (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/06/18/2043242/Proposed-Canadian-Law-Would-Allow-Warrantless-Searches) and Europeans in general (http://torrentfreak.com/europe-amps-up-war-on-piracy-090618/)
Aw god dammit.
Ugh. More tanking.
At this point, I give up on the hopes that legislators would actually have a brain. They all have the foresight and the thinking power of a box.
FOR. FUCK'S. SAKE. (http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/06/20/2018255/EFF-and-PK-Reluctantly-Drop-Lawsuit-For-ACTA-Info)
It may appear that the Appeal Court is also heavily biased, it seems. (http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-judge-not-biased-no-retrial-090625/)
Narkozy does not know how to give up. (http://torrentfreak.com/french-senate-adopts-revamped-3-strikes-anti-piracy-bill-090708/)
And guys, I've just found a "sequel" in the making that is even more redundant than how crybabies whine about L4D2 (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/07/08/don039t-copy-floppy-rap-gets-creepy-2009-facelift)
FUCK YES
http://www.trinitymugen.net/~Creator/Jesuszilla/give2ya.swf
The Aussies are doomed. (http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/14/0346249/Australian-ISPs-Soon-To-Become-Copyright-Cops)
So will be the British. (http://torrentfreak.com/britain-mulls-turning-7-million-into-download-criminals-090816/)
OhBummer is still a Tool. (http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/08/15/171238/DoJ-Defends-192-Million-RIAA-Verdict)
And the Judges didn't answer if coppying dvds for personal use is allowed, but decided to ban tools for that anyway. (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/12/1220211/Judge-Rules-Against-RealDVD)
Wow, I can just imagine the meeting in the british article, full of rich scum bastards.
^^
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2007/04/19/gal_chogunman16.jpg)
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A politician being touted as Britain's next Prime Minister has been persuaded to take action to criminalize 7 million citizens following intensive industry lobbying over file-sharing.
Good luck, dipshit, 'cuz there goes your workforce!
The Feds are butthurt (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/26/1956201/US-Fed-Gov-Says-All-Music-Downloads-Are-Theft)
So is Hugo Chavez (for a diffrent reason) (http://www.destructoid.com/venezuelan-politicians-want-to-ban-violent-videogames-146191.phtml)
And while I've allready told him at IRC, I figured might put it here as well, so here's a moment of silence for KOD's torrent site of choice. (http://torrentfreak.com/mininova-ordered-to-remove-all-infringing-torrents-090826/) Apparently Google may be next....
That was the worst news i've heard since days.. i went into shock for 10 minutes.
Quote from: The_None on August 28, 2009, 02:24:48 AM
The Feds are butthurt (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/26/1956201/US-Fed-Gov-Says-All-Music-Downloads-Are-Theft)
That is absolutely the stupidest thing they could do. No mention of legally free downloads, or purchased downloads, or things like Newgrounds Audio. If Karasawa downloads one of his own music creations, he is therefore stealing from who?
Himself? Have we all committed a
federal crime by willingly downloading the music he offered up as samples of a quality? Are we running from the law because of multiple counts of theft due to installing Half-Life 2 and it's episodes via Steam? Does this make Guitar Hero addons illegal just because the Federal Government are a bunch of idiots who should go back to blocking Health Care reform?
We're heading for an age of internet censorship that I don't think we'll ever get out of. One where files shared are so closely monitored about as a well as a YouTube video, where ISPs will do nothing to defend their customers' rights. Smart people can save us, but unfortunately, there's twice as many stupid people who WILL be bought off.
Also I believe this can be relevant to my post:
(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8458/1207786610605jpgroflposzj4.jpg)
Quote from: Vans on August 28, 2009, 09:27:44 AM
Quote@10 LOL
he he – The robbers at my local bank used Harley to flee from the police.
The local authority should sue Harley Davidson for the robbery as their bikes were used :)
LOL
ROFL
oh yeah I forgot I embedded that DMX
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab241/theriolz/naamloos-2.png)
Jesus christ, at this rate there won't even BE an internet in 10 years. (http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/08/25/music-publishers-sue-websites-over-lyrics)
WHAT THE FUCK
also the CEO of the National Music Publishers' Association (NMPA) is a jew
Disney buys out Marvel (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/07c7233c-9633-11de-84d1-00144feabdc0.html)
I'm posting that in THIS thread, because....
Quote
[18:28:31] <Kung_Fu_Man> I just thought about something though
[18:28:39] <Kung_Fu_Man> Disney is a bastard about copyrights
[18:28:48] <Kung_Fu_Man> What does that mean for all the Marvel shit in mugen?
Well said, KFM.
I can just imagine Robert Iger pulling up next to Stan Lee, holding a gun to his head, and saying "I wanna take you for a ride..."
oh god what the hell
On a related note, GooTube just taged one of my videos for UMG music. They didn't mute the thing or some shit like that (yet) but it's pretty worrying noneless.
UMG are the absolute WORST about that...
:-\ :(
I've just heard a sound. And that was a sound of majority of the french shrieking FUCK at the same time. (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/09/16/france-passes-tough-internet-piracy-law)
Did you mean BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT?
I think I (and shall Jango, probably) gonna delete Mr.Batter net week (http://torrentfreak.com/elton-john-joins-the-anti-piracy-lobby-090922/).
Heck, Isn't that me, or that anti-piracy attitude is getting seriously outright annoying?
... there's not a single song of his worth pirating, let alone buying. Not that he isn't a good musician– he made some great stuff– it's just that none of it I would want to.... intentionally listen to. So it's not like piracy is going to harm him any. :|
Young musicians? Most of them start out free these days on MySpace and whatnot. Piracy sure as hell ain't harming Kelly Clarkson or Soulja Boy.
Quote from: Jesuszilla on September 23, 2009, 03:29:30 PMPiracy sure as hell ain't harming Kelly Clarkson or Soulja Boy.
It would be nice if it did.
Also lol Elton John. CAAAAN YOU FEEEEEL THE LOOOOOOVE TONIIIIIIIGH... *gets attacked by a
Kimba the White Lion fan*
I have terrible feelings about this :'( (http://www.justnopoint.com/lbends/junk/ihaveterriblefeelingsaboutthis.png)
Also, I've just noticed a pattern.
-The new firefox I have has a bug with the cookies, so I have to manually log-in to various sites every time after I previously close Firefox.
-YouTube likes to massacre fair use from accounts that are not "always logged-in". In my case I was probably logged off once WMG took one of my videos (back when I still had the "old" Firefox version).
Doesn't that mean that the "always log-in" (if it worked) thing would save our videos?
Quote from: The_None on October 01, 2009, 06:47:13 AM
-YouTube likes to massacre fair use from accounts that are not "always logged-in". In my case I was probably logged off once WMG took one of my videos (back when I still had the "old" Firefox version).
Your evidence on this?
Seems like the personification of Greed himself/the most irrelevant person these days also wants a fair share of future-ruining-"fun" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8298507.stm).
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3449/rikerfacepalm.jpg)
Quote from: heh man on October 13, 2009, 04:44:46 PM
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3449/rikerfacepalm.jpg)
More like:
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2r3h1u0.jpg)
Good luck with that.
It's official: Anti-Pirates wouldn't even allow you to MST3K their shit. (http://metokur.org/fff/?p=125)
Quote<Anjel> A law where the Swedish goverment can see what you download/upload to something that is outside of Sweden got through today.
god dammit
Look I've stayed out of this thread for a long time, and for good reason but if you're at ALL surprised about companies not letting people MST3K shit get your head out of your ass, even the old MST3K stars, now Rifftrax, can't and still use the video they instead have to release MP3s and people synch them up manually.
So if the people who pretty much created the god damn genre can't do it what makes you think Joe Schmo on youtube can?
Heck even then when they where still on the show they still had to pay rights to use everything and is the main reason why releases of the show on DVD are slow, as they have to rebuy the rights.
Because they're doing it for profit and we're not?
You should have realized by NOW that businesses tend not to care about that.
Copyright is enough of a mess as it is, Neon.
Let's say you've bought yourself a new album. CD. You know a friend IRL who wants to listen to it, see if he likes it enough to buy it himself. He also has a computer and does ripping from time to time. Do you share it with him and pray that he doesn't get you and himself in 3000 different kinds of legal trouble by copying those songs to his computer and potentially sharing them? Or do you deny and tell him to get his own copy?
And if it couldn't get any worse...
The fucking cold war is back. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091014/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_military_doctrine)
yep, the world is doomed because of two shitty countries.
nuclear war :D
It's official, Activision managed to outEA the EA (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/10/14/cobain-guitar-hero-5-vid-removed-youtube).
I feel some sort of Emo now, and thus I now perfectly understand why Neon stayed away from this thread.
Quote from: K.O.D on October 15, 2009, 07:37:43 AM
yep, the world is doomed because of two shitty countries.
nuclear war :D
The beginning of the end, i'm not liking what i'm seeing in the world these days, especially with all the stuff i'm reading in this thread... :o
The primary reason why I started this thread is sadly still alive. (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/these-42-people-are-shaping-us-internet-enforcement-policy.ars)
Quote from: Fox McCloud on October 14, 2009, 10:52:47 PM
And if it couldn't get any worse...
The fucking cold war is back. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091014/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_military_doctrine)
Not really; this time around we know the Russains are incompetent. But that's exactly the problem in this case.
The Telecoms Package is still alive and kicking, and what makes matters even worse is that even managed to remove the protection from the three strikes principle! (http://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/EP_Flawed_Proposal_20091020) (And no, it's not old at all (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/french-3-strikes-law-returns-now-with-judicial-oversight.ars)])
And just If you thought it couldn't get any worse, the government of my shithole is allready thinking of implementing the Hadopi-style law as well and even thinking of inserting propaganda into schools (in a similar vein of THAT kind of thing (http://torrentfreak.com/pro-copyright-propaganda-enters-us-classrooms-090522/)) to boot.
Bumped because we can all worry for KoopaKoot now. (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/10/28/1344203/Three-Strikes-To-Go-Ahead-In-Britain)
Argggggggggggggggggggg
Great. If they do it, then they're gonna try to pressure the US to do it, I bet.
I don't even know what's worse....
The fact that the ACTA is still alive (http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html) (and our fears on this pact with the devil are officially confirmed) (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/03/1943237/Anti-Counterfeiting-Deal-Aims-For-Global-DMCA)....
...or - on a unrelated note, though also a sign of an apocalypse - *hold your breath, this is gonna be just as painfull if not even more*.....
Hideo Kojima himself being a TwilightTard. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/95888-Hideo-Kojima-a-Huge-Fan-of-Twilight-Judging-Fan-Art-Contest)
The latter.
i don't care about Kojima being a Twilight fan because i don't give a shit about what people like in general anymore even if most of the fanbase is full of assfuckers
that and i never played any of his games yet lol
The next METAL GEAR will obviously have vam... oh wait we already had Vamp.
At least he outright admitted that his vampire character was a fag.
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html
Somehow Fox News calling Obama a fascist doesn't sound as far-fetched any more
*hides Bebe's Kids*
Evil"OhBummer is a Black Hitler"SlayerX5, if it weren't for these bullshit parallels you made between the mugen community and the real world governments, we would've actually believe you.
Yeah, OhBummer has fallen so far I just HAD to say that.
I would normally LOL at Vans linking to what I've already linked in my previous post, but as this is the ACTA we're talking about, it deserves to be linked twice. Speaking of which, more outright frightening details have emerged. (http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html)
No matter how much we may disapprove of how the Congress of America as well as politicians of the world behave, the only thing we can do is, well, nothing. We as individuals have no say, usually because we don't even have a valid counter-point that won't lead to them saying that we encourage copyright infringement, and as such encourage piracy.
If enforcing copyright in ways that seem Draconian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_(lawgiver)) to us is not the solution, then what is?
... Not even sure what to say. It's just so fucking unbelievable.
For
noncommercial music sharing? How can they even do that?
QuoteHey man, my band and I made this new song, I'll send it over MSN.
*sends*
*FBI jumps in through the window and hits you with baton while screaming "THAT'S ILLEGAL!"*
It is in the wake of my previous post, that I realize just what can be done. I said that we as individuals were worthless.
Therefore, it is time to make aware this internet crisis. People, not just teenagers who probably won't take it seriously and spread a bunch of memes in a protest making us look like fools, but the masses in general. Although piracy is bad, slamming everybody because of a group's behavior is unfair.
Our societal system is built for shunning everybody who does something wrong. In my kindergarten year, I can recall that we lost recess privileges for a day because one of my classmates wrote expletives all over a closed off cubicle-desk known as the "Good Seat". That now reads to me as: "Conform, or you will be isolated from everyone. They will be told to not like you and they will believe that you are evil." No source, those words are my own.
This is that kindergarten class, except on a national if not global scale. This is the punishment of that, even. The ISP watchdogs are not going to be able to keep up with the rapid pace and will be penalized without any fair trial, or they will blanket disconnect people and as such, even more social divides will be created as families tear theirselves apart over who "disconnected the Internet" when the entire family is at fault automatically in the eyes of this act.
Unfortunately, the complacency of modern society means that very, very few will speak of it publicly if this happens.. Just a few calls to the Senator\Congressman\House Rep won't help much, not unless we can do it en masse.
Easier said than done.
too bad our generation is full of pussies who won't speak up.
If this passes, I can assure you those pussies will turn into giant elephant-sized cocks and rampage against the government.
In other words, we might end up starting a revolution that turns the USA into a communist utopia :O
Quote from: Jango on November 06, 2009, 04:49:39 AM
If this passes, I can assure you those pussies will turn into giant elephant-sized cocks and rampage against the government.
Unless these said pussies won't get killed/jailed/enslaved/brainwashed beforehand.
Oh, and
I am going to be doomed, as my country (as it wasn't pathethic enough allready) it's going to have it's own internet blacklist now. (http://di.com.pl/news/29414,0,Rzad_chce_wprowadzic_czarna_liste_stron.html) Oh, and The Police is also going to be able to use malware to spy on people, (http://cia.bzzz.net/policja_zalozy_podsluchy_w_komputerach) Germany style. (http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=214778&start=0) (Links in polish, so Google Translate would have to be your "friend" untill I can find an english-language website reporting this.)
Quote from: Jesuszilla on October 29, 2009, 05:32:23 PM
Great. If they do it, then they're gonna try to pressure the US to do it, I bet.
Aaaaand it's allready happening. (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/mpaa-filtering/)
On a side note, The Polish plans for China-style internet are still alive. (http://prawo.vagla.pl/node/8752)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8361849.stm
May we be reminded that China is one of the few permanent members of the UN...
Poor Britons are about to be raped beyond belief (http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/19/breaking-leaked-uk-g.html).
Also, there was a voting on that Polish Internet blacklist on our parliament today. I'm pretty sure it was passed.
Just letting you know that our retarded president has signed the anti-gambling project (that also includes the Internet Blacklist I've mentioned earlier). This likely means that my days are numbered. :'(
Oh it shouldn't affect this site.
am I the only one with a country whose internet is not getting raped?
all we lost was Mininova
nope, i live in a third world country so my net is not gonna get raped either until those stupid americans interfere or something (just like they did 2 years ago when they conducted a raid on all electronic shops in the city conducting piracy :what:)
If the Internet-blacklist wasn't enough, my country is getting something that would make the HADOPI look unthreatening. (Basically they would spy on your Internet activities and cut your net access for no reason whatsoever. Withouth judical oversight of course.) (http://di.com.pl/news/29802,0,Bedziemy_sledzeni_w_internecie_bez_decyzji_sadu.html)(Link in polish)
Also, it is confirmed once agian that it's generally best to not trust anyone in the Obama administration, including the president himself (http://torrentfreak.com/us-holds-ridiculously-one-sided-anti-piracy-roundtable-091215/)
A certain most fakest messiah ever (with an over-inflated ego, to boot) was hardly trustworthy to begin with as he would probably approve the Venezuelan game ban (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2007/03/23/group-petitions-bono-cancel-mercs-2-over-venezuelan-missions), but this (http://torrentfreak.com/bono-puts-policing-piracy-into-his-next-decade-top-10-100103/) just made it official.
I'm talking about the guy who fled his own country so that he won't have to pay taxes.
........... WOW. The most liberal motherfucker ever who has gotten into trouble with the FCC SEVERAL times is supporting fucking censorship?
It's official. Poland is getting it's own HADOPI. They also plan completely throwing Fair Use out of window. That would make it a totall anal rape on just about every Polish MUGENite/Pooper. (http://osnews.pl/ustawa-antypiracka-w-pierwszej-polowie-tego-roku/)
Also, R.I.P. NirGaga mashup. (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/01/emi-attacks-nirgaga-mashup)
:'(
Isn't there a site totally dedicated to Polish MUGEN users? It'd be interesting see their input on this.
Even though I'm perhaps a rare instance of the Polish MUGEN user that is actually noteworthy of sorts (the other being one of RandomSelect admins), I'll just say M.U.G.E.N. Samouczek (http://www.samouczek.com/) (translated as M.U.G.E.N. Tutorial), that also comes with it's own forum (http://www.forum.samouczek.com/), in which I've incidentally also made a similar "We're doomed" thread myself as well (http://www.forum.samouczek.com/viewtopic.php?t=1929).
Also, Poor Rikard wouldn't even be able to upload videos of his MUGEN stuff in progress. (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/16/2140218/Italy-Floats-Official-Permission-Requirement-for-Web-Video-Uploads)
That sucks. :(
It's official, the world's most unneeded fad has just infected even there... (http://torrentfreak.com/3-strikes-coming-to-the-united-states-via-the-back-door-100128/)
Not sure what to say. If ISPs are watching what the fuck I'm doing at all times in order for this to "work," I am against it.
However, if it's a matter of no real change in policy other than getting caught (like it is now), then I could probably say I support it because so far, when someone's been caught, they usually are immediately faced with a ludicrous lawsuit.
I think it's allready active on the US, and we already have a first innocent victim of that to boot. (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-10444879-261.html)
No, otherwise it wouldn't have been immediately shut off. Hence why I said that unless they monitored my shit all the damn time, I would support the US taking the three strikes rule to prevent this exact type of shit from happening.
BTW, Finally found a news site chronicling the Polish Censorship plans (http://einclusion.hu/2010-02-04/internet-censorship-in-poland/), as well as there (https://blog.torproject.org/blog/poland-internet-censorship-and-tor).
I'd still hate to live in Australia more though. (http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/02/24/0325252/AU-Internet-Censorship-Spells-Bad-News-For-Gamers)
QuoteThe International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA), an umbrella group for American publishing, software, film, television and music associations, has asked the US Trade Representative (USTR) to consider countries like Indonesia, Brazil, and India for its 'Special 301 watchlist' because they encourage the use of open source software. (http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/02/24/1812244/Use-Open-Source-Then-Youre-a-Pirate)
Ah, couldn't these IP buttbudies get even more pathethic?
Quote from: The_None on February 25, 2010, 07:42:54 AM
QuoteThe International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA), an umbrella group for American publishing, software, film, television and music associations, has asked the US Trade Representative (USTR) to consider countries like Indonesia, Brazil, and India for its 'Special 301 watchlist' because they encourage the use of open source software. (http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/02/24/1812244/Use-Open-Source-Then-Youre-a-Pirate)
Ah, couldn't these IP buttbudies get even more pathethic?
WHAT THE FUCK?! :what:
WHUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTT
Ok this pisses me off. Who should I write an angry letter to?
http://www.cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
LOL
http://corrupt, adulterating shitbags.com/5486390/australias-moral-defender-has-hurt-feelings-interest-in-research (http://corrupt, adulterating shitbags.com/5486390/australias-moral-defender-has-hurt-feelings-interest-in-research)
Dear God if I was reincarnated and born into Australia, I would know I fucked up in this life.
It's official, OhBummer is an enemy all along. (http://www.osnews.com/story/23002/Obama_Sides_with_RIAA_MPAA_Backs_ACTA)
Koopakoot, Fusion and Brits in general are fucked now (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/03/16/lords-pass-digital-economy-bill)
I'm not a brit. Maybe descended from one but I was born American.
I will get slapped for this but...
Neon :sho:
Saw a show on this yesterday on the TV :rpeng:
Also:
QuoteThis is a perfect example of clueless people Listening to rich pricks about how they lost X amount of money everyday because of piracy, Come on how the hell are they going to know you actually downloaded sometthing copyrighted? Ask isps to spy on your downloads and report them? Ya sure i'm certain they want to loose money and customers that way.
Also this. (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5g9Upt2VYA_I6Sl1Er-ay_B8v_1Fw)
Switzerland turned to be next go get an anti-game flu. (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/03/19/swiss-pass-violent-game-bans-actual-laws-follow)
It pisses me off when shit like that actually passes.
R.I.P. Koopakoot's Internet access 200?-2010 (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/internet-cut-offs-website-censorship-about-to-drop-on-uk.ars)
To add insult to injury, the "Digital" "Economy" Act happens to be poorly written, to boot. (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/uk-govt-ip-address-is-intellectual-property-address.ars)
Evidence that the people who write these bills have no idea how the internet works and what people can do. If they did, we'd probably be looking at a total shutdown. Thankfully nobody that smart wants to fight piracy.
Intellectual Property is a term referring to a number of distinct types of legal monopolies over creations of the mind, both artistic and commercial, and the corresponding fields of law. An "Intellectual Property Address" means nothing, or if you really wanted to try to give it a definition, I guess this portion of the law is designed to deter peers from performing copyright infringement while daydreaming.
More proof that fair use (and common sense) never existed in Youtubeland. (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/04/everyone-who-s-made-hitler-parody-leave-room)
YouTube is starting to piss me off more and more each day.
TOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIII... errr...
CONSTANTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
Malware creators are cashing in.
http://i41.tinypic.com/4gtd1i.jpg
I fucking hate shit like that.
It's times like these that make me rethink my stance on genocide.
...
wonder if they made any money at all from it.
There's a sucker born every minute, so probably.
Quote from: Fox McCloud on April 27, 2010, 10:03:15 PM
It's times like these that make me rethink my stance on genocide.
On what? :what:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/06/fcc-outlines-new-third-way-internet-regulatory-plan-will-spli/
Joe "Video Games and Marilyn Manson caused the Columbine" Lieberman wants to take off our internet in times of cyberterrorism while the hackers would actually save us. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/101440-U-S-Government-Proposes-Internet-Kill-Switch)
The problem with policing the internet isn't that nobody has done it, it's the circumstances and structure of the internet itself that make it hard to police in general. Put simply, policing the internet especially in the way of that bill only paves the way for more problems, not less.
Digital policing is incredibly difficult. We don't have the resources nor infrastructure to police it correctly. If you wanted to protect copyright, you would probably have a "filter" that each file ran through and was scanned for matching data. The problem is that this would make it too easy for someone to put in a bunch of dummy data that would match, say, a known DVD Rip or ISO. Enough to trip the system and send the police after you.
Then we'd reach the point where you'd be fined for something that wasn't even there. It's horribly impractical, and an insult to privacy. No old senator is ever going to get the message because naturally, they accept sponsorships which might as well be called "bribes" at this point.
This only reinforces my point (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=18815).
Prosecuting for a thought crime is the only way to "end" piracy. But it's also the way to end privacy and the definite end of a fair justice system. Everything done on a computer qualifies as "reasonable suspicion" at the very least. If you do not have a security camera and an ongoing set of footage, how are you going to prove that it wasn't you at the controls of the computer when your annoying friend decided to look up where he find torrent the latest movie? In the court of law, even?
The U.S. Government and figures all around the world choose to make the Internet a liability and not a resource.
Quote from: Joe BidenIt's smash and grab, no different than a guy walking down Fifth Avenue and smashing the window at Tiffany's and reaching in and grabbing what's in the window.
That's right, in order to download a song off the Internet, I used violence and destroyed somebody's property in order to get to it. I then brute-forced the artist's bank account password and stole $1 from it. Oh dear lord, how is a millionaire gonna order off the Dollar Menu at McDonald's now?!
I am such a violent criminal. They ought to arrest me and then throw my sorry ass in prison.
The new Australian PM supports Stephen Conroy's Internet fuckup plan. (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/07/08/new-australian-pm-backs-internet-filter) Which means in the meantime that the persecution against gamers (and small breasted women (http://www.somebodythinkofthechildren.com/australia-bans-small-breasts/)) will likely to continue.
This just in.
Google (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-aaron/google-verizon-pact-it-ge_b_676194.html) is one two-faced bastard (http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/search/label/Net%20Neutrality) of a company.
Also subverting the FCC.
Vans is about to be doomed too. (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/08/18/2057229/Minority-Report-Style-Iris-Scanners-In-Mexico)
http://www.tigsource.com/2010/09/05/south-korean-game-rating-board-cracks-down-on-indies/
South Korea wants to ban Steam because it has unrated games.... and in South Korea, you have to pay to get your game rated, freeware or not.
Enjoy your shitty MMOs (quite literally, considering how many have died in a pile of their own shit playing them) and Starcraft.
I suppose we need a second Dark Ages to finally get it in our heads that this kind of ruling is stupid (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/09/the-end-of-used-major-ruling-upholds-tough-software-licenses.ars).
Oh now that is bullshit.
That's part of the reason I use old versions because not only is it cheaper to get a hold of them, but because they're selling a new and improved product for a higher price, I don't think it would really harm them any, so I shouldn't be punished.
Guess that defense won't hold up anymore thanks to this.
http://www.laquadrature.net/en/deadly-copyright-repression-threatens-eu-act-now (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/deadly-copyright-repression-threatens-eu-act-now)
Europe once again is in peril.
the_none you typed agian AGAIN
And once again, Hope basically backstabbed us, exactly as expected (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/gallo-report-adopted-a-stab-in-the-back-of-citizens-freedoms).
Fuck that, we're all getting Shaq Attaq'd. (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/09/exclusive-second-lawsuit-accuses-shaquille-oneal-computer-hacking)
Shaq hacking?!? wut???
Wouldn't he be Shaqing?
No, it's a Shaq Haq.
What's happening in a certain country (supposedly to "deal with addictions") is so outright sick that it outright deserves a mention in this topic. (http://corrupt, adulterating shitbags.com/5652950/chinese-youth-dies-at-boot-camp)
Quote from: Fox McCloud on October 06, 2010, 03:51:12 PM
Looks like ACTA's losing steam (http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5352/408/).
Doesn't change the fact that it's still a pretty damn dangerous document. (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/near-final-acta-text-is-a-counterfeit-of-democracy)
And in the fact of that, I feel compelled enough to say that the current form of money is the very core of the problems modern society has.
Warcraft gold?
http://corrupt, adulterating shitbags.com/5663625/new-court-ruling-could-affect-used-game-business
we doomed?
If it doesn't effect Ebay I'll be fine.
oh nooooooo (http://corrupt, adulterating shitbags.com/5666949/brazilian-court-forbids-the-sale-of-episodes-from-liberty-city-worldwide)
I guess it's time for me to buy a physical copy now.
Bought both of mine a while ago, but I heard there should be a pack that combines both disc in November.
Quote from: UHMEEEEBA on October 18, 2010, 05:02:22 PM
oh nooooooo (http://corrupt, adulterating shitbags.com/5666949/brazilian-court-forbids-the-sale-of-episodes-from-liberty-city-worldwide)
What the fuck
Quote from: DMK on October 18, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
Bought both of mine a while ago, but I heard there should be a pack that combines both disc in November.
Which sounds like it may get censored.
Though it's not the first time a track would be pulled. In Vice City, they removed "Running Through the Night" by Lionel Richie in 1.1 for some reason they never stated. However, it was still included on the soundtrack CD.
They realize that this lawsuit is only going to boost Rockstar's sales, right? They can't break into everyone's homes and take back the discs. Controversy
sells. I think Rockstar knows this better than anybody else.
Hence the sarcasm when I posted the link.
The US Internet Blacklist (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/11/bill-would-nuke-visa-cards-adwords-dns-records-for-pirates.ars) slips by on the congress unnoticed, as usual. (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/internet-censorship-pushed-congress/) Even worse, one guy behind this has an ego. (http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/11/17/2126229/MPAA-Dismisses-COICA-Free-Speech-Concerns)
FFFFFFFFFFF
I THINK ITS GOING TO FUCKING TAKE WORLD WAR 3 TO MAKE THE FUCKERS REALIZE THIS SHIT IS FUCKING WRONG
JHKJGHJKGHDAJKGBKAGVJBHKDFAKFAGSKHVBJK'
edit: wow layout brandy layout stretch much? :-[
SPEECH IS ONLY FREE IF YOU PAY FOR IT.
Just saying it now.
Because if you so much as recognize the existence of the 1st amendment or recognize such people as even anything other than fuckspawned embodiments of pure evil and shittery, you are a criminal.
Good fucking god we have fucked up HARD.
Once again, hope backstabs us all in the EU (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/european-parliament-on-its-way-to-accept-acta) (At this rate, I'm pretty damn sure that the US Internet Blacklist will pass as well.)
:mrox:
CC are great.
My country's regional courts declared last year that websites should be registered as a press, (http://prawo.vagla.pl/node/8306) and the supreme court just agreed with them. (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdi.com.pl%2Fnews%2F35012%2C0%2CSad_Najwyzszy_prase_w_sieci_trzeba_rejestrowac.html)
[spoiler]Which means that even Logical Bends may be at stake as it's run by a Pole and an American.[/spoiler]
:johnface: What the fuck.
We're losing it in terms of net neutrality (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/obama-fcc-caves-on-net-ne_b_799435.html).
FUCKING CORPORATE COCK SUCKING FUCKSTICK
ASDHLKGJSHJFLKSJFLKFVZ,BVZCX,VBXC,MVBCX,VBC,VBZDGJKSGKJS
i want to fucking split apart a kitten now
Edit: Thanks for shortening the angrish, Jesuszilla
Ohbummer believes in shattering the privacy once more. (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/01/08/1227229/Obama-Eyeing-Internet-ID-For-Americans) Oh, and Intel now caters for a certain group now. (http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/01/07/1553241/Intel-Insider-DRM-Risks-Monopoly-Investigations)
everyone can die
Quote from: The_None on January 09, 2011, 03:11:45 AM
Ohbummer believes in shattering the privacy once more. (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/01/08/1227229/Obama-Eyeing-Internet-ID-For-Americans)
I highly doubt that such a policy would become mandatory on anything but Government websites.
QuoteThese digital IDs would be offered to consumers by online vendors for financial transactions.
And from the way it's written, it sounds that it could only apply to websites dealing in, as it says, financial transactions. Not your common message board, not even remotely going to interfere with the affairs of a free game engine.
A list of companies supporting COICA surfaced. (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110118/12431012712/companies-who-support-censoring-internet.shtml) A couple of examples that we saw it coming miles away...
...and one kinda heartbreaking example.
And we all know that the reason why all this intellectual property protection is going into place is because the companies only want to secure profit. Hell, the presence of Activision essentially confirms it.
Quote
# Hastings Entertainment, Inc. - Amarillo, TX
Okay, never shopping at Hastings again.
and lol@Monster Cables. They don't want the info getting out that they're ripping people off with their "high end cable" bullshit.
Wait why is a company that supports independent movies on the list of domain seizing companies???
Because money.
Apparently profiting off the misery of people as their civil liberties are assraped is more relevant than most everything else.
This fucking makes me sick.
Just as expected, EU became fond of silently assraping us as well. (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/eu-commission-pushes-for-private-cooperation-against-our-freedoms)
BLUHBLUHHUGEPOSSIBLECORPORATEPAYOFF
The french are already screwed to begin with HADOPI, and that still wasn't enough to please Sickolas Narkozy. (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/french-loppsi-bill-adopted-the-internet-under-control) At this rate (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/french-government-wants-to-sacrifice-net-neutrality), France may soon become a new Egypt (and that's if we'd be lucky.)
Dickolas SharkTitsozy needs to fuck off.
That's an insult to the Egyptians, who I am 100% confident will win their revolution.
Edit: lol typo
US is one step closer to corporotocracy (http://www.nationaljournal.com/house-passes-amendment-to-block-funds-for-net-neutrality-order-20110217)
What the fuck are they going to do next, put all of us in a fucking INTERNMENT CAMP?! (http://politics.slashdot.org/story/11/03/09/2323209/US-House-Subcommittee-Votes-To-Kill-Net-Neutrality)
THEY DESERVE TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIIIIIIIIIEEEEE (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110311/00104713434/us-proposals-secret-tpp-son-acta-treaty-leaked-chock-full-awful-ideas.shtml)
Triple post, calm down.
There haven't been posts in the thread for a while.
Indeed, he was doing my job for quite some time.
Speaking of, my goverment still wants to filter the net Stephen Conroy style (and I have yet to find an english source about it (http://osnews.pl/stop-cenzurze-w-internecie-2-wraca-grozba-filtrowania-sieci/))
And let's not forget about the upcoming legislation that basically mandates pretty much everybody who posts videos to the web to the National Broadcasting Council. They would get fucked in the ass either way (especially folks who post certain kind of videos) (http://di.com.pl/news/36587,0,Senat_zdecyduje_o_cenzurze_sieci_w_Polsce_Tak_to_prawda.html)(link also in polish)
By the way, the proclaimed "son of ACTA" title is quite a misnomer, as the TPP actually predates the ACTA. Even worse, it's actually in force since 2006 in Brunei, Chile, New Zealand and Singapore,with the US working hard to shove that pact everywhere else.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH
Typical forced corporate imperialism. Death to those that support that POS.
Part of me can't wait for Armageddon (http://www.mosesavalon.com/mosesblog/946/music-business/obama-issues-illegal-streaming-crackdown-signals-end-of-internet-piracy/).
I doubt this will EVER be inforced.
If it does, then see you in the deathcamps where they will put the fair use supporters in.
Quote from: Fox McCloud on March 21, 2011, 11:11:50 AM
Part of me can't wait for Armageddon (http://www.mosesavalon.com/mosesblog/946/music-business/obama-issues-illegal-streaming-crackdown-signals-end-of-internet-piracy/).
Man internet piracy counter measures are sure bad.
Let's kill all of humanity.Really Fusion, really?
Quote from: UHMEEEEBA on March 21, 2011, 08:35:11 PM
Quote from: Fox McCloud on March 21, 2011, 11:11:50 AM
Part of me can't wait for Armageddon (http://www.mosesavalon.com/mosesblog/946/music-business/obama-issues-illegal-streaming-crackdown-signals-end-of-internet-piracy/).
Man internet piracy counter measures are sure bad.
Let's kill all of humanity.
Really Fusion, really?
Perhaps you don't see it like I do. I see en-mass wiretapping based on suspicion alone. I see wire-tapping because of a DMCA claim on someone's YouTube page. I see how this will benefit the corporations that have their lawyer's hounds sniff the internet for things to take down in the name of "protection".
I also see how many times they've tried to pull this off, and how likely they are to succeed. All they ever need to do is to just throw more money at the senators, house members, democrats and republicans alike. That and so many other things that aren't related to this article bring me to
that.
But you know damn well I'll probably never act on those words.
Considering that The Industry became so up in the ass that they want to destroy the very sites that informed about their plans in the first place, I can't really say I blame Fusion. (http://torrentfreak.com/new-law-will-shut-down-torrentfreak-music-industry-expert-says-110322/)
Looks like they don't want anyone to know about the genocide of freedom. I place the blame squarely on Jeremy Bernal
ALSO, THIS. (http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202486102650&Manhattan_Federal_Judge_Kimba_Wood_Calls_Record_Companies_Request_for__Trillion_in_Damages_Absurd_in_Lime_Wire_Copyright_Case)
(http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/03346.gif)
75 Trillion?
You know what that is? That is akin to eternal damnation, which is clearly what these companies desire for people who do not bow to their whims. This is not a fine you can pay in your lifetime. This is a fine that would have to be paid over several generations. That person's children, their children's children, and why they had to would be lost on them. It's insane.
75,000,000,000,000. Yes, much, much higher than the National Debt. About 5x higher, as a matter of fact. So are these record companies pledging to rid us Americans of the National Debt? Or is it what I'm thinking, that they just want to ruin some poor schmuck's life all because of a few digitally shared songs?
The problem is that these particular companies think that stopping one individual will do good. That suing one for, say, exactly 1 googolplex in US Dollars will have any overall effect because certainly, they will not be able to pay that much on it. They call for money that the person simply does not have. While the hundreds of others doing the same thing get away unnoticed and unphased.
Therefore, the only two solutions are either a complete reformation of the marketplace, or to destroy the very core of the supposed "problem" by limiting it so much that it is no longer appealing. Yes, I am suggesting that a good portion of the Anti-Piracy legislation we're seeing is deliberately restrictive. It's made to ruin the Internet's reputation by design.
EDIT: I'd typed out 75 BILLION instead of 75 TRILLION. My mistake.
Not only that, it also violates human rights.
Quote from: Fox McCloud on March 24, 2011, 10:46:30 AM
This is a fine that would have to be paid over several generations. That person's children, their children's children, and why they had to would be lost on them. It's insane.
Debt is not inherited (at least not here), as much as they would like that. If your parents die and some creditors ask you for money because of their debt, you don't pay anybody shit.
If it's like a mortgage, though, then the creditors get first dibs on the asset in debt and if you don't get the shit out of there, they can lock the door on you and take everything inside because technically they still own it. That does not mean that you're in debt though unless you agree to pay it off so you can own the property, in which case, if you don't intend to use that property, you just got screwed, buddy.
tl;dr: The children wouldn't owe anybody shit unless they, as an adult, had something to do with it.
RIAA lobbyist? Don't you mean terrorist? (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/riaa-lobbyist-becomes-federal-judge-rules-on-file-sharing-cases.ars)
The EU really, really loves China's policies that much it so much to copy these in entirely. Including net censorship, of course. (http://slashdot.org/story/11/04/28/1244214/The-Great-Firewall-of-Europe)
WHAT
Yup, the US goverment are so looking forward towards blacklisting TrinityMugen among many other things. (http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-to-introduce-draconian-anti-piracy-censorship-bill-110511/)
We're not engaging in any piracy.
This has turned into genocide.
The "Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft of Intellectual Property" Act.
Sounds like it's dumb by design.
Won't make it through, then.
http://www.wimp.com/filterbubbles/
Apparently the US government doesn't even like all kinds of e-sports, as they are now thinking of criminalizing "unauthorized" streamings. (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/05/new-bill-upgrades-unauthorized-internet-streaming-to-a-felony.ars)
You mean the corporations in control of the government.
Turns out the current Polish president has one thing in common with Spoony's moderation thing - he does not accept criticism (http://di.com.pl/news/38065,0,Strona_krytykujaca_prezydenta_Komorowskiego_zamknieta_po_nalocie_ABW.html). (In Polish)
Basically there was one satire site critical of him, and said site's owner got his house raided by the local equivalent of the FBI. He got his laptop, hard drive, flash disk and even camera card taken away from him. Oddly enough, he has yet to be charged for libel, yet he closed the site anyway, and knowing the state of life (and especially the government's true intentions), they would surely shove him to the jail for 3 years.
The fact that the previous (almost just as bad, to be noted) President also had a site critical of him that was active until the plane crash that killed him (and still live today) is utterly pathetic. Speaking of, his brother - who surely would do the same thing back when he was a prime minister - now sprouts that "the government can't even tolerate the freedom of Internet anymore". I'm not sure whenever to call if sad or even just outright scary.
FLUMMOX REGARDING THE TOLERANCE OF CRITICISM!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/388071/senate_panel_approves_controversial_copyright_bill/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_zsJ8KPP0#t=16s my reaction
It get (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/06/copyright-office-supports-making-illegal-streaming-a-felony.ars)s worse real fast (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/06/02/1211245/Embed-a-Video-Go-To-Jail).
Spain's next on the pro-file sharing genocide list. (http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2011/06/03/spain-to-clamp-down-on-file-sharers/)
The worst part is that the US is encouraging this. :johnface:
If a Major advertiser assumes archive.org of all thing to be a "pirate" site, then them doing the same against Mugen sites (http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-com-and-archive-org-blacklisted-as-pirate-sites-110610/)(in spite of what JZ said) (http://www.trinitymugen.net/forum/index.php?topic=889.msg23109#msg23109) seem to be a matter of time.
They call it piracy because they aren't making money off of it.
Then again, that's what happens when you let the stupid people lead.
Though on the other side, we have to remember that this was probably called on by a music\movie industry official. Unless MUGEN goes 3D and everybody ports from MK9, I don't think there's any real danger outside of the typical C&D... Which is what a reasonable legal team would do.
Yeah, my turn.
RIAA attempts to prove that PROTECT IP is needed by using things unrelated to them (http://www.zeropaid.com/news/94073/riaa-anonymous-lulzsec-hacks-prove-need-for-protect-ip-act/).
This shows RIAA's lack of competence regarding the internet in general. For one, LulzSec wasn't a very powerful force, and if anything it makes more sense to advocate that the affected companies need to boost their security, NOT try to paint it like "We need this bill or stuff like this will keep happening!" That's not how Network security works. At all.
Upon this, I realize that the global economy must change to accommodate for this. There's too much of a focus on making a profit, to the point it's "do or die". It's why the US Economy is in such trouble, everybody's hoarding the money and putting none of it back, only to cost cut when they don't need to and put out the same kind of junk we had so long ago.
The RIAA is a fucking terrorist group.
Suppressed Report Found Busted Pirate Site Users Were Good Consumers (http://torrentfreak.com/suppressed-report-found-busted-pirate-site-users-were-good-consumers-110719/)
QuoteObviously it would be of great interest to see the report in full, but it appears that is not going to be possible. According to an anonymous GfK source quoted by Telepolis, the findings of the study proved so unpleasant to the company that commissioned the survey that it has now been locked away "in the poison cupboard."
For obvious reasons. You can bet the company that commisioned it is a record company or movie studio.
Typically, the Republicunts approved of this. (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20084939-281/house-panel-approves-broadened-isp-snooping-bill/)
This isn't really bad, I'm just posting it here because it's relevant to the subject. Linked because huge image.
http://www.infoanarchy.org/en/upload/7/75/Download_Disobedience_-_US_Schools.png
We're fucked. The very reason this thread is made for in the first place is about to be signed this saturday. (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/09/anti-counterfeiting-trade-agreement-slouches-toward-signing-this-saturday.ars)
I lost will to live now.
Shit.
Well nice knowing you guys.
I dunno, we'll wait and see.
Obama Administration To Use ACTA Signing Statement To Defend Why It Can Ignore The Constitution In Signing ACTA (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110929/13395816138/obama-administration-to-use-acta-signing-statement-to-defend-why-it-can-ignore-constitution-signing-acta.shtml)
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsg2caKXQa1qg2n1z.gif)
About 8 countries signed this de facto pact with the devil. (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111002/22262616174/as-countries-sign-acta-many-finally-admit-their-copyright-laws-will-need-to-change.shtml) As the countries that didn't do it yet have promised support for it, it goes without saying that we would lose it all any moment.
Also, apparently Japan thinks signing this shit is crucial to rebuild the country after the earthquake (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110930/21271816157/can-anyone-explain-what-acta-has-to-do-with-reconstructing-japan-after-earthquake.shtml). Nevermind how this kind of thinking starts to be alarmingly common among the copyright crusaders (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110916/12183515986/insurers-suggest-podium-stage-collapse-tragedies-are-inevitable-result-file-sharing.shtml),of all the things the current decade shares with the last one, why of all things it had to be it also staring off with a major country signing off a law that would fuck up many citizens as a blatantly kneejerk response to a tragedy? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_act)
And considering the things that are now, not to mention what would inevitably follow, it goes without saying that the 2010s should share absolutely none of any redeeming qualities 2000s would ever have. And frankly this kind of thinking also perfectly explains the recent state of Japan's industries.
One word: Money.
Italy may soon be fucked, thanks to this. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/27/italy-bloggers-protest-right-reply-bill)
Just remember, it's not slander if it's true.
This is outright fucking disturbing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/us-drug-policy-war-congress_n_998993.html?1318006907)
Might as well REPEAL THE FIRST AMENDMENT while we're at it.
I can.... kinda see where they're coming from, actually.
That's the type of law that just gets passed on moral grounds enforcing it would be pretty much impossible from a logistics standpoint.
And this is why many countries merely signing the ACTA is a horrible thing:It oppened doors for other, even worse treaties to fuck us over in secret. (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111018/05561916398/out-acta-ing-acta-all-tpp-negotiating-documents-to-be-kept-secret-until-four-years-after-ratification.shtml)
Some italian guy wants (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/20/0311234/eu-debates-installing-a-black-box-on-your-computer) to spy on every single EU citizen. (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111021/11554216450/eu-politician-wants-internet-surveillance-built-into-every-operating-system.shtml) All of that for the sake of "teh childrens (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111022/01274116465/unintended-consequences-trying-to-overprotect-children-internet.shtml)".
Politicians are so dirty that that can't possibly go through.
The hell he's doing that to protect the kids.
Also, the PROTECTIP act recently got renamed to something a bit apt. (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111026/12130616523/protect-ip-renamed-e-parasites-act-would-create-great-firewall-america.shtml)
And now my country (once again) wants to fuck me over as well. (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwolnemedia.net%2Fprawo%2Fministerstwo-kultury-chce-scigac-piratow%2F) (Googletranslated, I couldn't find an english language source that reported this)
Reminder that http://queenston.tumblr.com/post/12889696352/tumblr-protect-ip-sopa
The EU are off to sign the ACTA at the begining of 2012 after all (http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/communication-breakdown-10000030/acta-gets-green-light-from-eu-council-10025053/), in a sneakiest way possible (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111219/02385917123/eu-council-quietly-adopts-acta-hiding-it-agriculture-fisheries-meeting.shtml)
Seriously, someone please lock the contary thread (http://www.trinitymugen.net/forum/index.php?topic=1444.0), I just don't care anymore.
And give up hope? eehhhhh....
I know that the reply's pretty late, but frankly, I feel that hope (http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/388071/senate_panel_approves_controversial_copyright_bill/) backstabbed (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111002/22262616174/as-countries-sign-acta-many-finally-admit-their-copyright-laws-will-need-to-change.shtml) us (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/09/anti-counterfeiting-trade-agreement-slouches-toward-signing-this-saturday.ars) so (http://torrentfreak.com/website-blocking-law-implemented-by-new-spanish-government-120102/) many (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/french-loppsi-bill-adopted-the-internet-under-control) goddamn (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/internet-censorship-pushed-congress/) times (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdi.com.pl%2Fnews%2F35012%2C0%2CSad_Najwyzszy_prase_w_sieci_trzeba_rejestrowac.html) that (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/03/16/lords-pass-digital-economy-bill), well (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/internet-cut-offs-website-censorship-about-to-drop-on-uk.ars).... yeah (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120105/04131517286/obama-working-to-fix-his-relationship-with-hollywood.shtml), I'd say "fuck hope" (http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/01/07/1527231/lawmakers-intent-on-approving-sopa-pipa), but that would somehow insult rape, if that's even possible.
World War III, anyone? (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/39542/Report_Video_game_designer_sentenced_to_death_in_Iran_over_propaganda_charges.php)
Yup, us Europeans will get fucked soon as well (http://www.laquadrature.net/en/eu-commission-paves-the-way-for-privatized-net-censorship)
Double posting as one of my many fears actually became reality. (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120113/09184917400/us-to-extradite-uk-student-copyright-infringement-despite-site-being-legal-uk.shtml)
That is just wrong.
Don't worry, I'm sure if one of our citizens stands trial in another country, they will do the same to us and use that as an example.
I think KOD might wanna consider moving out of India... (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/14/1257223/india-oks-censoring-facebook-google-microsoft-yahoo?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter)
The mere fact that OhBummer did sign the NDAA 2012 after all (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IeuE16LLDY) makes me honestly question the validity of claims of the White House being supposedly skeptical on SOPA.
My country (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdi.com.pl%2Fnews%2F42977%2C0%2CPolska_podpisze_ACTA_26_stycznia.html) - and the EU in general - are off to sign the worldwide SOPA january 26th. (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/20/0259218/eu-to-sign-acta-later-this-month) (and my fucking incompetent government has the audacity to state that signing this shit is a success (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pl&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fosnews.pl%2Fpolski-rzad-podpisal-acta-i-uwaza-to-za-sukces%2F))
Also public domain is dead too (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/18/2247223/us-supreme-court-upholds-removal-of-works-from-public-domain)
MegaUpload was killed by the feds. Anonymous strikes back. (http://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-retaliates-for-megaupload-shutdown-120120/)
You know, the reason why the SOPA/ACTA blackout "succeded" also stems from the fact that a certain group didn't assault anything during the blackout, only after it, after Megaupload was killed. Meanwhile on today's Polish ACTA "blackout" polish script kiddies assaulted plentiful of govermental sites etc.
The result? not only the polish goverment still insists on signing this shit (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pl&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdi.com.pl%2Fnews%2F43033%2C0%2CACTA_zostanie_podpisana_ale_beda_jeszcze_konsultacje.html), the minister of "digitalization" who initially warned about the thing (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pl&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdi.com.pl%2Fnews%2F42992%2C0%2CACTA_Boni_prosi_Tuska_by_wstrzymac_podpisanie_traktatu.html)
is now siding with the ACA. (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pl&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdi.com.pl%2Fnews%2F43031%2C0%2CACTA_i_chochol_Boniego_czyli_zabawne_tlumaczenia_MAC.html)Good job, Poland. You fucking ruin
everything you touch.
Every. Single. Thing*. As if I wasn't outright ashamed to be a Pole myself to the point that the prospect of not being able to move out of this Iran of Europe thanks to inevitable border searches the ACTA would impose on this world.
* - maybe aside from video games and death metal, but that wouldn't matter soon anyway, especially not after this shit and how the EURO 2012 would peform.EDIT:IT GETS EVEN WORSE. the goverment is thinking to bring up a
state of emergency over the polish netizens not knowing better than to hack govermental sites. (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpcmiasto.pl%2Fnode%2F56) I just....
I think my days are indeed numbered.
EDIT:
Quote from: Aformentioned Minister of "Digitalization"We can't not sign the ACTA. (http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1732450,0,1,boni-nie-mozemy-nie-podpisac-acta-juz-za-pozno,wiadomosc.html) It's too late for that
At this point someone please dump the "We're not doomed" thread. Seriously.
No. In the end, there's always SOME chance of hope, however small. I like to think it's hope that keeps us going.
I still see no reason at all to trust "hope", definately not after I just found out that last year the polish goverment have passed an legislation that would allow the Supreme Chamber of Control to collect every single data about it's citizens. Sexual preference, race, faith, political affilation, addiction state, health state and even genetic code. And it will start doing that this June. (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=pl&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwolnemedia.net%2Fpolityka%2Fto-mial-byc-artykul-o-acta%2F)
No wonder the polish protests didn't do jack shit when the current goverment just doesn't give a fuck and signed the ACTA anyway. And it certainly won't be the last time hope would backstab us.
ive always thought about how keeping this thread up for 4 years required a certain sort of "dedication" well thats my contribution live long and prosper
http://dearthey.com/2012/01/26/a-copyright-quickie-canada-is-about-to-pass-sopas-evil-little-brother-politely/
YO CANADIANS JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOUR COUNTRY IS ABOUT TO BECOME A DYSTOPIA
Even with certain bills being in a kind of peril (especially the very treaty that inspired this very thread in a first place), we must carry on being aware.
Internet Surveillance Bill, WORSE Than SOPA: Explained (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBVqm2W56c8#)
We're not doomed. End of story.
Locked.