Well, my copy just arrived today. And let me tell you, it is awesome. It's like playing a totally different game. Although set in Liberty City, it looks nothing like it did in previous GTA games.
DISCUSS
It has a 10 on IGN, so ya know I ain't trippin'
It has like a 10 out of 10 almost everywhere (http://corrupt, adulterating shitbags.com/384511/gta-iv-reviews-an-exercise-in-hyperbolism).
The opening made me LOL.
One of the most entertaining opening so far in the series.
Gameplays been top notch so far.
Seriously I think the only thing that would complete it is a God Mode cheat or something. Other than that, it has everything you could want. It's hilarious when you hit a certain pole at high speed to have the car actually curve around it and have you go flying out of the windshield, leaving a crack/blood spatter where you land.
I'm sure like GTA:SA was the cheats will flow out and after a month or so we'll have a large list of them.
Another fun thing is stealing cars and just waiting a few more seconds till they grab the door and drive off, swinging the pedestrian around like a reguler day ball and chain. Swing hard enough and you can roll'em under your car and squish'em.
I wonder what other small yet interesting things have been added.
Haha, I remember that mission where you had to steal this guy's car because he didn't pay Vlad. The guy grabbed onto the car, and as soon as I took off, WHAM! A police car comes and hits the side onto which he was latching. I see a spray of blood, and he's gone.
EDIT: Might as well share this here too:
The AI of the cops also caught me by surprise when they went inside a building to come after me. Close one too, as I didn't notice them until I heard one of them say, "Oh, why do they always get away!" and I turned around to find him and his partner walking out the door.
***WARNING: SPOILERS FOR "REVENGE" STORYLINE***
Okay, so I decided to take revenge on Dimitri, and Pegorino kills Kate. Right after the final mission where you have to kill Pegorino, the first phone call I receive is from an unknown caller. I answer, and it's KATE asking if I want to take her out on another date. What. The. FUCK.
Yep, finally done with it, but I think I'll explore the other ending as well. This one felt kind of... Empty.
***END SPOILERS***
Anyway, I like how the game gives you choices which change up the storyline. In a way, it sort of teaches a lesson. The dialogue that follows "revenge" choices is usually empty and makes you feel like you really missed out on what could have been something better. Of course, there are only two choices where you choose between revenge and sparing whoever's life in the storyline. Only the choice you make in one of the missions before the final mission determines what ending you get.
I'm one of the few people who chose to kill Playboy instead of Dwayne. Boy, am I glad.
Same here. I had to think only a little bit on that one. "On one hand, I kind of didn't like Dwayne from the start. He's kind of scary. On the other hand, Playboy gave me a phone, but.... This is GTA. Playboy has a nice house. Maybe if I kill him, I can take his house! He always seemed like a little bitch anyway."
Sure enough, I was right on that one. Damn I'm smart.
I've read Playboy dies either way.
Saw nothing regarding that on Wikipedia (won't check GameFAQs since it's not already up), but that's an outcome I didn't bother to explore because I don't regret it one damn bit. I can choose to improve my friendship and get backup from the hood if I want, AND I have a fucking nice safehouse.
From what I've read (and seen) so far, when you get to the first revenge or spare situation, I think what the developers had in mind was Revenge, Deal, in that order.
I'll have to see the ending for myself though, but I will have to replay everything from the first revenge situation up to that point, which is a lot more than you think.
Choose Playboy X as well. For Some reason from the first time I did that Blown cover misson...I'd have to kill him.
His attitude period and lack of care for a former friend really pushed it, but hey nice new crib! :D
Sparing Dwayne's old GF payed off as well. Got an easy side misson from her and got a couple hundred bucks for beating up on her abuseing BF.
Aw man, really? I decided to kill her, as well as everyone else who I was given the choice to kill up to that point.
Was nothing special about it, but a few bucks here or there ain't too bad, might have more from her so I'm not sure. So in some ways killing or not killing may benefit you moneywise.
I myself will have to try not killing many people on the second play through to see what happens or extra side friend missons.
I make good use of my save slots. I have gigs of space on this Xbox HD I'll probably never use, so what better use for it than to fully experience GTA4?
Also, I just got the "deal" ending. Won't spoil it for you or tell you what it's like, but I think it might be the better ending, although I'm not really too sure at this point...
I found the final mission to be loads easier since I got it right on the first try. Although maybe that's because it's very similar to the alternate mission and I kind of knew what to expect, but don't take my word for it; go see the different endings yourself. You will really experience more of the game that way.
It should also be noted that this is the first Grand Theft Auto game I completed fairly.
Who knows if this is even really the end of the story? After all, there's still Ray Bulgarin, and there is supposed to be a minimum of 10 hours of content per each upcoming downloadable episode.
Yeah, I heard both ending are kinda.....well certainly reminds me of a certain Zelda game choicewise.
I'm slow as far as missons. I'm just doing Ray's right now and been off doing cop missons and tracking down cars Brucie wants or his seller wants.
Can't wait too see it myself.
Well, it turns out that every protagonist from the previous games is dead. There's some graffiti on a wall in Bohan. Yep, all of them. Claude, Tommy, Toni, CJ, and Victor. Well, Victor was kind of a given due to the intro to Vice City.
Now I can say LOL CLAUDE GOT -1'D :mrox:
Huh, that post didn't show up as a new post for me.
That's BS THOUGH!
That seems to Rockstar's MO now with GTA games.
1st generation DOS/PS games, everyone basicly in it storywise aside from the citys died/nonexistant.
2nd generation PS2/Xbox/PC get killed off in favor of new characters, but like the previous keep all citys known so far in GTA.
At least they weren't entirely "retconed" by Rockstar so they at least keep their history. I EXPECT a little info on how each died or at least came to their end. >:(
Anyways, I toke the same route as you Jesuszilla and went ahead with the Deal. Damnit, I should of went with Kate. Oh well, thats why second playthroughs are for. :(
***SPOILERS FOR BOTH ENDINGS***
Well personally I think that the deal is the route Rockstar would have gone through with if they didn't want us to have a choice. After all, if Kate dies, she will call you up anyway. Roman, on the other hand, does not. Not to mention that there's more action when you go with the deal.
This is an old topic now, but I thought I'd just say how disappointed I was after completing it.
When I first got the game, I thought it was gonna be awesome especially after everything I'd read about it. And yeah the graphics, new physics and controls were good but it all was just too boring. 90% of the missions were just drive somewhere, kill someone, drop someone off, and that's it.. just the same format as all the other games. I was constantly waiting for one of those missions to come along where something slightly different happens like in san andreas where you'd get the jetpack or when you get to control a different vehicle but they never appeared. They even cut down the variety of vehicles and just replaced them all with a load of cars that look exactly the same, most of which you never actually see anyway. Also, they could've done so much more with the unarmed fighting because the only time I ever used it was at the start when it tells you to, and it was actually good this time. Like they could've put a katana in there and the option to learn martial arts at least.. it had so much potential.
And even though the graphics were good, it got boring looking at the same grey streets through the whole game.. san andreas had much more variety with the countryside etc. and even in the cities themselves going from da hood to las vegas.
Also, the endings were the worst ever. Both of them left me feeling like I'd accomplished nothing, and then it was even worse when I realised there was nothing interesting left to do after the main story. This feels like a step down from san andreas imo.
TL;DR: IT'S TOTALLY OVERRATED.
Yeah, GTA4's unarmed combat could've been a hell of a lot more exciting. But instead, damn they made it slugglish and unrealistic. And I'd rather be able to smash things with the bat and punch vehicles and stuff.
Plus WHERE THE FUCK IS THE PEDESTRIANS RIOTING CHEAT!? I liked that.
I'm playing GTA3 again... It's fun blowing people to pieces.
The cheats in san andreas gave me a good 50 hours of extra playtime. I hope those riot cheats for gta4 appear soon.. ;__;
Quote from: Allah-Saurus on June 07, 2008, 12:32:48 AM
This is an old topic now, but I thought I'd just say how disappointed I was after completing it.
When I first got the game, I thought it was gonna be awesome especially after everything I'd read about it. And yeah the graphics, new physics and controls were good but it all was just too boring. 90% of the missions were just drive somewhere, kill someone, drop someone off, and that's it.. just the same format as all the other games. I was constantly waiting for one of those missions to come along where something slightly different happens like in san andreas where you'd get the jetpack or when you get to control a different vehicle but they never appeared. They even cut down the variety of vehicles and just replaced them all with a load of cars that look exactly the same, most of which you never actually see anyway. Also, they could've done so much more with the unarmed fighting because the only time I ever used it was at the start when it tells you to, and it was actually good this time. Like they could've put a katana in there and the option to learn martial arts at least.. it had so much potential.
And even though the graphics were good, it got boring looking at the same grey streets through the whole game.. san andreas had much more variety with the countryside etc. and even in the cities themselves going from da hood to las vegas.
Also, the endings were the worst ever. Both of them left me feeling like I'd accomplished nothing, and then it was even worse when I realised there was nothing interesting left to do after the main story. This feels like a step down from san andreas imo.
TL;DR: IT'S TOTALLY OVERRATED.
HAHA, YOU WASTED YOUR MONEY.
HAHA, AT LEAST I'VE GOT MONEY.
Bump now that Lost and the Damned is out.
Downloaded it and it's pretty cool so far. The story runs parallel with GTAIV's. There's new weapons, including an automatic pistol and a grenade launcher. You can also have bike races where you can hit the other racers with a bat.
I might even say that this is probably what Rockstar really wanted GTAIV to be.
EDIT: GET READY FOR A BIG SHITFEST! They show a man's flaccid penis in one of the cutscenes.
double post because lol I just beat it
I've been slow with getting into the Lost and the Damned, but boy does it feel way different from the rest of Nicos GTA4 story. Action packed, the gang aspect is fun, and building up your strength with friends is interesting which kinda reminds me of building up stats in GTA:SA.
About the "OMG MALE PENIS LOL" is it really that bad for some gaming sites to blow it out of proportion? Seems kinda silly nowadays with games like GOW showing tits and not getting much backdraft about it or Mass Effects "sex scenes". How far into it do you see it? You know for scientific purposes....
It's rated M, which is the equivalent of R for movies. It's okay to show a penis as long as it's flaccid and totally in the name of humor.
However, this is the first game in America I've seen that does this and gets away with an M rating.
The penis shouldn't bug you, you see one every time you take a leak anyway...hopefully...
Yeah, I just thought I'd make a prediction, and from what you said, I was right.
I almost expected some slow news channel to make a big deal out of it, but so far nadda. Makes me happy to see it this way really. Maybe we're almost at a time where the news will stop jumping on things like this and just let us enjoy a fun hobby.
Closer to the topic I love the new weapons, that new shotgun is absolutely rape. I wish I could use them in Niko's story. :(
Also, has anybody else noticed that they BROKE the baseball bat?
Broke? You mean it doesn't work any more or something?
Well, when you pull it out, it takes a while before you can use it. It's like, you can't start using it straight away.
The question "why?" comes to mind.
It can't be too easy to make a kill with a bat, considering that everything else you try to beat down has a gun, usually.
I do it all the time.