Trinity MUGEN

MUGEN => MUGeneral => Topic started by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 04:44:10 PM

Title: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 04:44:10 PM
I've been looking to try and download this but I cant seem to find anything except one that only has three characters (that are all the same)

I'm not computer illiterate but i have no clue how to expand the program to have characters like optimus prime in it (i think theres also various versions and i think i may have an old one)

If someone could please hook me up with an up to date MUGEN or show me how to do it on my own I'd be Extremely grateful ^^ thnx!^^/
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 24, 2007, 05:02:51 PM
The site where you can get WinMUGEN is located here (http://unofficial-winmugen.jpn.org/). Download the No limit Winmugen patch. You can find screenpacks, characters, etc. by searching a database such as Random Select (http://randomselect.piiym-net.com). Their database was recently down, but they are slowly rebuilding it.


To add characters, etc. it is explained in the docs and in the select.def located in your data folder. We also have a few of our own creations available in the Downloads (http://www.trinitymugen.net/index.php?ind=downloads) section of our site.


Have fun! If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 06:18:41 PM
ok now im starting to think im computer illiterate i looked at the faqs and my eyes just glazed over i dont understand at all what theyre talking about ;-; i DL'd this forums svc zero and added it to the characters folder but still cant select zero

I thought it had everything the program needed in there already?
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: UHMEEEEBA on July 24, 2007, 06:20:04 PM
You need to edit mugen's select.def file in the data folder.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 06:56:36 PM
im not sure i understand, am i altering the notepad text itself? i typed cvszero, stages/kfm.def as a test but nothing happened am i missing something? (sorry im really a newb at this stuff)
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: megaman_zer0 on July 24, 2007, 07:24:14 PM
Did you unzip the file folder?
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 07:37:34 PM
yeah i did i might just make a screenie and show you what i did in a bit
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 24, 2007, 07:41:37 PM
Did you try to install any new screenpacks? That may be the problem.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: UHMEEEEBA on July 24, 2007, 07:48:35 PM
You made sure to put in under [Characters] and above [Extra Stages] right? Cause other wise Mugen won't know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 07:56:00 PM
right above extra stages and no i didnt unload screenpacks whats that and how do i do it?
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 08:03:28 PM
but i did do the character code correctly right?
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 24, 2007, 08:12:16 PM
To change screenpacks look for a line that looks like this:
; Not accessible in options screen
motif = data/system.def



Change that to the directory in which your new screenpack is located, if you want to do that. But let's try to add characters to the default screenpack first, shall we?


Open select.def in Notepad:
Quote;Insert your characters below.

Look for that line. Put the character you want right under that.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 08:43:16 PM
im just cutting and pasting a chunk of it but heres what i put


;You can also add a randomize icon to the select screen. To do
;this, put the word "randomselect" on a line of its own, with no
;extra parameters.
;
;Insert your characters below.

kfm, stages/kfm.def
kfm, stages/kfm.def
kfm, stages/kfm.def
cvszero, stages/kfm.def
;-----------------------

I unzipped the folder to both char folder and the data folder but i did rename the folder idk if that makes a dif the files inside are same name though
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: UHMEEEEBA on July 24, 2007, 09:03:04 PM
Try putting in an enter space after the cvszero entry.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 09:12:33 PM
fm, stages/mybg.def, order=3
;
;You can also add a randomize icon to the select screen. To do
;this, put the word "randomselect" on a line of its own, with no
;extra parameters.
;
;Insert your characters below.

kfm, stages/kfm.def
kfm, stages/kfm.def
kfm, stages/kfm.def
cvszero, stages/kfm.def

;-----------------------
[ExtraStages]


thats what i have now but still noting? is there anything else besides this i have to do?
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 24, 2007, 10:20:31 PM
Quote from: Alik on July 24, 2007, 08:43:16 PM
im just cutting and pasting a chunk of it but heres what i put


;You can also add a randomize icon to the select screen. To do
;this, put the word "randomselect" on a line of its own, with no
;extra parameters.
;
;Insert your characters below.

kfm, stages/kfm.def
kfm, stages/kfm.def
kfm, stages/kfm.def
cvszero, stages/kfm.def
;-----------------------

I unzipped the folder to both char folder and the data folder but i did rename the folder idk if that makes a dif the files inside are same name though

It doesn't need to be in the data folder. And you renamed it in the char folder? Yes that DOES make a difference. Rename it to cvszero.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 11:14:25 PM
i renamed the folder not the file but ok one sec
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 11:18:45 PM
woot! its working now thanks so much:D so this works for stages as well as charries? i just add the text and what not? wow anyone know where i can get optimus prime mario and sonic?:D thank you guys SO much:D

one last question does this support online by chance? oh and anywhere i can get a move set?:D
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 24, 2007, 11:38:19 PM
Mario can be found at RandomSelect, posted earlier in this thread. It's the best out there, too. As for Sonic, I think Cyanide made one. The only others besides his I can think of either have stolen code or are crappy.


And to check movelists for my characters, I included movelist_en.gif. Others can usually be found in their readme files.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 24, 2007, 11:48:47 PM
great thnx so much!^^

if you ever need some pld help in ff11 on unicorn server look me up^^
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 25, 2007, 01:46:25 AM
ok ive started adding stages and stuff and i get the stage to play but i cant seem to get any music out of them, is there something im missing?
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 25, 2007, 04:20:39 AM
Download the music. Be sure that in the music parameter you also include "sound/".
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: UHMEEEEBA on July 25, 2007, 02:20:04 PM
Doesn't WinMugen have that crazy Plugin issue sometimes? I remember not being able to use music back when I could actually play Mugen.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 25, 2007, 07:07:50 PM
Occasionally you'll have to mess around with the settings in order to get it to crash less, yes.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 26, 2007, 01:28:53 AM
hey guys sorry was busy in ff11 today x.x  well i seem to have the hang of adding characters and i *think* im doing the right process for music in stages i added tallon 4 from the website you gave me and moves the music file to the sound folder and it plays the music but the sount is really really distorted  same happened with the opening movie for the spidey character but the ending music played fine and the win screen music played fine too so i dont know why it doesnt like the TallonIV sound file

Also there seems to be a lot of code on the screen for the characters i havent learned to expand the screen size yet so i dont know what it says or how to make it go away

lastly i was hoping to find Ash from army of darkness and optimus prime i havent found em yet ;-;
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 26, 2007, 04:35:46 AM
To get rid of the debug text, go to mugen.cfg and set Debug to 0.


As for the sound, click the Windows Start button and then go to Run. Then type in dxdiag and click OK. Then go to Sound tab and move the slider to either Basic Acceleration or No Acceleration. Then click Exit. Sound should be able to work now.

If not, in mugen.cfg search for this:
Quote; Sound configuration (Windows)

.... then play with those options a bit. Make sure it's under Windows Sound Configuration and not Linux Sound Configuration.



As for those characters, they're offline, or at least Ash is. Plus we don't do requests here.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 26, 2007, 01:20:36 PM
sorry for slow response my browser sometimes just wont load the page for awhile x.x anywho i see that file you wanted me to set the value to 0 but my pc doesnt recognize it and i dont know what tool i should use to open it with

oh and that sound works perfectly now too thnx:D

im still not sure how to add music to a stage though the trick i tried for tallonIV doesnt work on any of the other stages the Oblivion stage has music on its own too so im confuzzled
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 27, 2007, 02:43:47 PM
ive been fighting with that file you mentioned and cant seem to get at it at all to change the values you mentioned any advice on it? ive also noticed that sometimes i put the name of the character that  the file calls for and it doesnt work then i change it to something else and it works, and sometimes no matter how much i fight with it it just wont work driving me nuts ;-;
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 30, 2007, 03:16:53 AM
?
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on July 31, 2007, 07:45:30 PM
ok イエスジラ i got the mugen.cfg working, i was asking before how to open it because windows wouldnt recognize the file type, but it opened when i tried opening with notepad, I think ive got the hang of this thing now thnx ^^ i added a ton of characters and everything, only thing i'd like to try now is adjusting the AI on some of the characters, some of em are like uber (like naruto and mario) i like the more balanced characters like Zero and Thor
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: UHMEEEEBA on July 31, 2007, 08:10:54 PM
You can't really, those characters ais are programed into those characters. Unless you turn off the ability for CPU's to cheat commands they're still going to work.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on July 31, 2007, 08:55:53 PM
Indeed, many creators program their own AI for their characters which is why they're like that.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Alik on August 01, 2007, 02:03:51 AM
omg thats such a pain because theres a lot of characters i like but i mean this game is so unfriendly to I AM A FUCKING n00b TO THE INTERNET BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT n00b IS SPELLED WITH A ZERO AND PRONOUNCED "NOOH-BEE" like i tried learning superman, but its not easy when the ai keeps you in the corner the whole fight. im generally ok with spiderman because i know him like the back of my hand but anybody else and im owned.

(its just a little humiliating getting owned by sailor mercury)
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: UHMEEEEBA on August 01, 2007, 09:31:03 AM
Well remember for ever cheesy ai there are at least 3 bad ones.

Which reminds me someday I need to fix StoneMan's ai.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: Jesuszilla on August 01, 2007, 09:47:31 AM
And for every cheap AI there's an even cheaper character to counter that.
Title: Re: Heyas just joined the community after seeing it on Youtube
Post by: UHMEEEEBA on August 01, 2007, 10:06:35 AM
limcheap ai -> infinity (Character) = ?